Happy Thanksgiving All

[LKB]

And may all turkeys you meet be on the table. 

Cheers,

LKB

[zamyrabyrd]

Greetings to you as well.

Just for the record for whom whole fowl are too much for a small houeshold, I baked turkey parts in a cooking bag with precooked sweet and white potatoes, threw in a quartered onion, some salt (made a slight mistake of using whole salt that penetrated the sweet potatoes too much), rosemary and bay leaf. Of course, don't forget to prick the bag so steam can escape. The best is at the lowest temperature possible that kills bacteria after an initial 150C or so for about and hour and half, too much will dry out the meat. Also I made applesauce. The cats loved the leavings. 

ZB

[ComposerOfAvantGarde]

I am curious to know what Thanksgiving actually is.......a turkey thing? A harvest celebration? Something colonial?

[zamyrabyrd]

I am curious to know what Thanksgiving actually is.......a turkey thing? A harvest celebration? Something colonial?

In the US, it started with the Pilgrims in 1621 celebrating the harvest with Indians who showed them how to sow corn, etc.  Abraham Lincoln codified it into a national holiday in 1863.

[ComposerOfAvantGarde]

In the US, it started with the Pilgrims in 1621 celebrating the harvest with Indians who showed them how to sow corn, etc.  Abraham Lincoln codified it into a national holiday in 1863.

Nice, working with the land. Sounds good. I love a nice secular tradition based on working with each other and the land.

[amw]

There is actually no harvest celebration in November. That's in October, on the date Thanksgiving is celebrated in Canada. In the US, Thanksgiving is basically a celebration of + erasure of the genocide and land theft by Europeans (unwittingly aided by Native American allies) that created "America". Among native tribes/nations across the US only some celebrate Thanksgiving; others use the same day to mark a National Day of Mourning, including basically all surviving groups in the Northeast (where the "Thanksgiving story" supposedly took place), whose population was destroyed by smallpox intentionally spread by European colonists as well as numerous wars between occupying powers for control of North America between roughly 1760 and 1812.

Anyway >.> whatever, happy holiday guys lol, whatever you celebrate

[zamyrabyrd]

There is actually no harvest celebration in November. That's in October, on the date Thanksgiving is celebrated in Canada. In the US, Thanksgiving is basically a celebration of + erasure of the genocide and land theft by Europeans (unwittingly aided by Native American allies) that created "America". Among native tribes/nations across the US only some celebrate Thanksgiving; others use the same day to mark a National Day of Mourning, including basically all surviving groups in the Northeast (where the "Thanksgiving story" supposedly took place), whose population was destroyed by smallpox intentionally spread by European colonists as well as numerous wars between occupying powers for control of North America between roughly 1760 and 1812.

Anyway >.> whatever, happy holiday guys lol, whatever you celebrate

History cannot be rewritten to satisfy moral righteousness. Tribes, yes, even in the New World, had been warring against one another and grabbing land for time immemorial. This is just a fact of life. We can just try to improve on the past and appreciate what was done for us, that's all.

What is known is that the pilgrims held the first Thanksgiving feast to celebrate the successful fall harvest. Celebrating a fall harvest was an English tradition at the time...The 53 pilgrims at the first Thanksgiving were the only colonists to survive the long journey on the Mayflower and the first winter in the New World. Disease and starvation struck down half of the original 102 colonists.

These pilgrims made it through that first winter and, with the help of the local Wampanoag tribe, they had a hearty supply of food to sustain them through the next winter.  Although the modern day Thanksgiving feast takes place on the third Thursday of November, the first Thanksgiving did not. This feast most likely happened sometime between September and November of 1621.

http://historyofmassachusetts.org/the-first-thanksgiving/

[Hollywood]

Since moving to Austria from Los Angeles (going on 24 years now), I haven't really celebrated the traditional American Thanksgiving Day. When I married my Viennese husband 17 years ago we do what I call our Austrian version of Thanksgiving. We go to one of our favorite restaurants not far from our flat and we eat a Martinigansl (roasted goose) which is served during the time in celebration of St. Martin of Tours feast day on 11 Nov. This Martinigansl time usually runs from the end of Oct. to the middle of Nov. here. So we have  our Austrian Martinigansl dinner instead of the traditional U.S. Thanksgiving dinner of turkey with all the trimmings.

The one thing I do miss about the American turkey day is watching the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade on TV. Grew up watching that every Thanksgiving until I moved to Austria. I was able to celebrate turkey day with my folks back in California in 2011 and 2016 which was very nice indeed. But trying to celebrate the traditional Thanksgiving here in Austria isn't the same. I don't have any family here like the majority of U.S. families living in Vienna. So enjoying our own Austrian version of turkey day is a lovely tradition my hubby and I started way back in 2000. Gobble, gobble, gobble...   

[LKB]

Hello Hollywood,

I don't know if this will float your boat, but here's a link to last year's parade on YouTube:

https://youtu.be/RkCbUZR7Tpk

Perhaps it will be useful in the future. 

Cheers,

LKB

[Karl Henning]

I am curious to know what Thanksgiving actually is.......a turkey thing? A harvest celebration? Something colonial?

The Seasonal Classic:

http://www.youtube.com/v/GAmcoPen01g