Bach vs. Beethoven!

Started by dtwilbanks, August 20, 2007, 09:51:09 AM

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Who's your fave?

Bach
17 (40.5%)
Beethoven
25 (59.5%)

Total Members Voted: 24

BachQ



I voted, but I won't say for whom. Not Elgar, though.

dtwilbanks

I guess Larry voted for Bach and D Minor voted for Beethoven.

not edward

I wanted a "Banana" option.
"I don't at all mind actively disliking a piece of contemporary music, but in order to feel happy about it I must consciously understand why I dislike it. Otherwise it remains in my mind as unfinished business."
-- Aaron Copland, The Pleasures of Music

dtwilbanks

Quote from: edward on August 20, 2007, 04:25:25 PM
I wanted a "Banana" option.

I knew I forgot something. No banana for you. ;)

aquablob

I cannot vote, even jokingly. Just can't do it!

Gurn Blanston

We used to have a poster called "Minnesota Dave" who started polls like this, but otherwise was a pretty nice guy. ;)

Beethoven.

8)
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Don

Quote from: edward on August 20, 2007, 04:25:25 PM
I wanted a "Banana" option.

"Banana" isn't in vogue these days.

dtwilbanks

#27
Quote from: Gurn Blanston on August 20, 2007, 05:14:32 PM
We used to have a poster called "Minnesota Dave" who started polls like this, but otherwise was a pretty nice guy. ;)

Beethoven.

8)

:-[

Sounds like a cool guy.  8)

sunnyside_up

I voted for Bach, but my alter ego voted for Beethoven  ;)

Bruckner is God

I voted Beethoven.  I find Bach a little boring.


Shrunk

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation has already decided this thru its Cage Match:

http://www.cbc.ca/musicandcompany/cagematch.html#cagematchstats

Gabriel

This thread is something like "Music vs. Music".

I vote "Music". ;) (What means that I will finally not vote).

bricon

Here's my voting slip.



I'll have to wait 'till the Florida Governor decides my voting preference.

Haffner

#34
Quote from: James on August 20, 2007, 10:11:02 AM
The over-assertion of self in his music via dynamics etc. ugh...


There wan't an "over"-assertion of self in Bach's music? Please describe examples in Beethoven's work that point toward "over-assertion of self", and then contrast it with Bach's "adequate/moderate" assertion of self and how we can judge that in his music.

Quote from: James on August 20, 2007, 10:11:02 AM

To me, Bach is the man, the untouchable great....nothing naft, bombastic, egotistical or vulgar in his offerings, pure music tapped into the very source and a harmonic depth & understanding that Beethoven himself famously acknowledged & dreamt of having...
Beethoven doesnt come close IMHO. But no one really did, and they knew it too!




Right.


Despite James' obviously objective, non-self-assertive ruminations, I go with LvB. For me, Bach was a composer of music so advanced that many of his pieces seem borderline supernaturally inspired. The Brandenburg Concertos, his Toccata in D minor, the Passacaglia in C minor...all examples of highest craft in composition. However, I personally can't weigh those compositions against opps.59. 131, 132, 135, the Missa Solemnis, or the 9th Symphony. The Grosse Fuge by itself tends to put me off listening to the WTC for long periods of time, and I practically never listen to Bach's most famous masses...most certainly not after being astounded by the Missa Solemnis.

Again, this is only the opinion of a middle-aged guitar teacher from Burlington Vermont.



Haffner

Quote from: D Minor on August 20, 2007, 04:17:58 PM

I voted, but I won't say for whom. Not Elgar, though.




Dminor: Master of belly-laugh-provoking, subtle (yet not) mean-itude!

karlhenning

Quote from: dtwilbanks on August 20, 2007, 03:41:01 PM
Thanks for playing.

At your service, mon vieux.

In this case, I consider that I have voted with shelf-space, whether measured by recordings, or scores.

karlhenning

Quote from: Don on August 20, 2007, 05:29:17 PM
"Banana" isn't in vogue these days.

This year's crop of bananas was used up over at the Poju-Elgar thread  8)

Haffner

Quote from: karlhenning on August 21, 2007, 04:51:07 AM
This year's crop of bananas was used up over at the Poju-Elgar thread  8)




BWA- ;D!!!

BachQ

Quote from: karlhenning on August 21, 2007, 04:51:07 AM
This year's crop of bananas was used up over at the Poju-Elgar thread  8)

:D  :D  :D