Interactive Solo Keyboard Works Game (Voting Round)

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San Antone


North Star

Quote from: San Antone on April 11, 2018, 01:59:16 AM
Darn, you beat me by a minute.   :o
Don't worry, your vote wouldn't have made a difference for the Liszt Sonata anyway. ;)
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Madiel

Frankly, I'm extremely surprised at the winner. I didn't even think it would be the winner out of Debussy, never mind overall.
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Florestan

Top 5 (which is actually 7):

Debussy - Etudes - 100
Bach - Goldberg Variations - 86
Bach - Well-Tempered Clavier, Bk. 2 - 82
Liszt - Piano Sonata in B minor - 71
Beethoven - Piano Sonata no. 30, op. 109 - 65
Schubert - Piano Sonata, D 960 - 65
Schumann - Kinderszenen - 65

Surprising winner indeed but the German/Austrian canon still reigns supreme.  ;D
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Karl Henning

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ritter

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Quote from: Madiel on April 11, 2018, 04:07:23 AM
Frankly, I'm extremely surprised at the winner. I didn't even think it would be the winner out of Debussy, never mind overall.

Quote from: Florestan on April 11, 2018, 04:24:02 AM

Surprising winner indeed ....



:laugh: :laugh: ;) ;)


North Star

Quote from: Florestan on April 11, 2018, 04:24:02 AM
Top 5 (which is actually 7):

Debussy - Etudes - 100
Bach - Goldberg Variations - 86
Bach - Well-Tempered Clavier, Bk. 2 - 82
Liszt - Piano Sonata in B minor - 66
Beethoven - Piano Sonata no. 30, op. 109 - 65
Schubert - Piano Sonata, D 960 - 65
Schumann - Kinderszenen - 65

Surprising winner indeed but the German/Austrian canon still reigns supreme.  ;D
Fixed that for you ;)

I can't say I would have guessed Kinderszenen to make it to the top 5 in the beginning either.
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Florestan

Quote from: North Star on April 11, 2018, 04:55:00 AM
Fixed that for you ;)

Thanks.

Quote from: North Star on April 11, 2018, 04:55:00 AM
I can't say I would have guessed Kinderszenen to make it to the top 5 in the beginning either.

I nominated it and pushed it upward as hard as I could.  Same with Schubert. :D
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

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So happy to see Debussy's Études take the victory here! Such a remarkable work and certainly one of my favorites from him.

André

Quote from: Madiel on April 11, 2018, 04:07:23 AM
Frankly, I'm extremely surprised at the winner. I didn't even think it would be the winner out of Debussy, never mind overall.

I'm not surprised. It's been constantly ahead of the pack since voting began. Zealotry is a powerful tool.  >:D

ritter


Quote from: Florestan on April 10, 2018, 10:06:45 AM
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2. The German/Austrian canon is a late, nationalistic, ideological fabrication with little real background, if at all: with few exceptions, for each and every composer in its top 10 there is at least one non-German/Austrian, or one neglected German/Austrian, of equal musical quality.
Quote from: Florestan on April 11, 2018, 05:01:19 AM
I nominated it and pushed it upward as hard as I could.  Same with Schubert. :D
Suffering from a light bout of Stockholm syndrome, Andrei?   ;)  :D

Un abrazo,

North Star

Quote from: ritter on April 11, 2018, 07:51:32 AM
Suffering from a light bout of Stockholm syndrome, Andrei?   ;)  :D

Un abrazo,
I swear I read that twice as "Stockhausen syndrome".   :D The horror...
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ritter

Quote from: North Star on April 11, 2018, 07:58:32 AM
I swear I read that twice as "Stockhausen syndrome".   :D The horror...
I think our friend Florsstsn is immune to that one.... ;)

Good day to you, Karlo.

North Star

Good day, Rafael!

I think I should check that my inoculation hasn't expired..
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Florestan

#154
Quote from: ritter on April 11, 2018, 07:51:32 AM
Suffering from a light bout of Stockholm syndrome, Andrei?   ;)  :D

Un abrazo,

Ummm, no. Firstly, Schubert is Austrian and Austrians (either by birth or by adoption) are actually the most palatable and enjoyable part of the canon; and secondly, Kinderszenen is a marvel of delicacy and poetry.

Quote from: ritter on April 11, 2018, 08:03:39 AM
I think our friend Florsstsn is immune to that one.... ;)

Quite so!

Good evening, gentlemen!

Edit: Don't get me wrong, I love German music as much as anyone else --- it's the ideological presupositions and implications of its alleged superiority over the music of all other geographical regions that I can't stand.
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

Mahlerian

Great to see the Schoenberg in the top 10.  It's a powerful and expressive piece of music, even if I do have a slight preference for the op. 19.

The Debussy Etudes are wonderful, but I was sorry to see that Book II of the Preludes didn't get into the voting.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Crudblud

Think Ravel and Ives made it in there too, good job guys!

Ken B

Quote from: North Star on April 11, 2018, 07:58:32 AM
I swear I read that twice as "Stockhausen syndrome".   :D The horror...

Jibbers. We'd have had to put him down.

Mahlerian

Quote from: Crudblud on April 11, 2018, 08:56:28 AM
Think Ravel and Ives made it in there too, good job guys!

Yes.  The top 10 is as follows:

1.  Debussy - Etudes - 100
2.  Bach - Goldberg Variations - 86
3.  Bach - Well-Tempered Clavier, Bk. 2 - 82
4.  Liszt - Piano Sonata in B minor - 66
5.  Beethoven - Piano Sonata no. 30, op. 109 - 65
5.  Schubert - Piano Sonata, D 960 - 65
5.  Schumann - Kinderszenen - 65
8.  Schoenberg - Drei Klavierstücke op. 11 - 64
9.  Ravel - Le tombeau de Couperin - 62
10. Ives - Piano Sonata "Concord" - 60

Cutting out the last three meant leaving out two composers that were not of Austro-German birth, so I question Florestan's commitment to fighting the ideology of Austro-German hegemony.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Sammy

#159
I'm very satisfied with the outcomes.  I kept pushing the Bach entries, and they came in 2nd and 3rd.  Although I didn't give points to Kinderszenen, it was my 3rd favorite work from the list.  As for the Debussy Etudes, they are wonderful pieces that I favor over any other Debussy compositions. 

Thanks for playing the game and choosing wisely.  Once the "Innovation" game is over, I'll start another contest likely of string quartets.  If you have other preferences, I'd love to hear and consider them.