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Whittling the nominations for "GREM / GROAT" down.

Bruckner 5, Klemperer, New Phil, EMI
Bruckner 5, Celibidache, MPhil, EMI
Bruckner 5, Jochum, RCO, "Ottobeuren", Philips
Bruckner 6, Keilberth, BPh, Teldec
Bruckner 6, Haitink, Dresden, Profil
Bruckner 7, Karajan, Vienna, DG  
Bruckner 8, Böhm, Vienna, DG
Bruckner 8, Wand, BPh, RCA
Bruckner 8, Wand, NDRSO, "Lubeck Cathedral", RCA
Bruckner 9, Giulini, Vienna, DG
Bruckner 9, Haitink II, RCO, Philips

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: 1st Poll for Bruckner
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2018, 11:26:57 PM »
Oddly I have never heard Haitink's 9, so I will seek it out. I have heard little of his cycle.

We're not talking about the 9th from his cycle but his second of three. You can make a nearly complete (3-9) cycle of Haitink's recordings outside the cycle. (See the "Alternative Haitink Cycle" here). There's no critical consensus on which alternative 6th one would include; I prefer Dresden others the BRSO version. On the 9th the consensus is clear: RCO over London.

KISS: Karajan and Jochum twice  :). And Stan Skrow.

Did nobody nominate Skrowaczewski?

Love him as a conductor - but he's got no claim to having made "TGREM". Although by now I might just give up the idea that this is not a GRBROAT thread.  :)

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: 1st Poll for Bruckner
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2018, 12:09:44 AM »
We're not talking about the 9th from his cycle but his second of three. You can make a nearly complete (3-9) cycle of Haitink's recordings outside the cycle. (See the "Alternative Haitink Cycle" here). There's no critical consensus on which alternative 6th one would include; I prefer Dresden others the BRSO version.

I may be mistaken, but I think I've heard (and enjoyed) the Dresden recording.  Both are on Tidal.  I'm not sure I could tell the difference blind.

Haitink Bruckner on Tidal:

Dresden Bruckner 6: https://tidal.com/album/12231612
BRSO Bruckner 6: https://tidal.com/album/80594065
1981 Bruckner 9: https://tidal.com/album/58971999 or https://tidal.com/album/21844236 (The Philips Years)
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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: 1st Poll for Bruckner
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2018, 12:38:29 AM »
I am totally confused as to what is going on but never mind.

I always associate Haitink with No 8. I heard him conduct it with the LPO and it is the greatest Bruckner performance I have ever heard, live or recorded. I have a complete Haitink 'cycle'  but it is made up of recordings from Amsterdam and Vienna - the 9th, with the Concertgebouw, dates from 1965 - presumably the later one is better.

No one has mentioned Tintner; he has usually had enthusiastic mentions in other Bruckner discussions. I only have his recording of the 1887 version of No 8; it is excellent but possibly doesn't come into the category of 'greatest ever'.

I have Wand's live Berlin recording of No 8. I made the mistake of reading the booklet notes first and was put off by the sycophantic gush. I am sure it is a fine performance but I haven't returned to it very often. I like his Brahms, symphonies 3 & 4, with No 3 being my favourite version for many years.

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Re: The Greatest Recording Ever Made: 1st Poll for Bruckner
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2018, 06:28:24 PM »
Conversely, there's a strident edge to the sound of the Wand recordings on RCA that makes them unlistenable, to my ears.
+1 Worst Bruckner Ever