A question about ripping classical music to my harddrive

[wtf]

So I'm ripping my cds onto my harddrive
using windows media player
and with my classical stuff, it always f*cks up the titles and stuff

what gives?!

example:
Classikon CD of Dvorak's new world and a couple of slavonic dances it puts in a folder entitled "Zdenek Kosler", even though it's Kubelik.
And decides that the slavonic dances are different slavonic dances to the slavonic dances that they are

another example:
Lassus Penitential Psalms - Hilliard ensemble
disc 2 is correct
disc one it decides it is Lagrime di San Pietro (Spiritual Madrigals), Ars Nova Vocal Ensemble

wtf is going on

kovacevich's diabelli is mysterious transmogrified into pollini
disc 2 of emerson's bartok quartets overwrites disc one
rachmaninov vespers are now by madonna?!?!

ENOUGH

what can I do? what do you do?

hello btw

[wtf]

I see you people reading my thread! Someone help me!

[Gurn Blanston]

I see you people reading my thread! Someone help me!

The problem is that it is reading the bar coded CD information, but it only reads, like "Composer" and "Work" off from it. Then it goes to CDDB or wherever it is grabbing the information and it makes what it thinks is an informed choice. I used to use MusicMatch and it did the same thing. I've never used WMP, so I don't know what options it offers, but in MMJB I would just change the artist if everything else was the same. When it wasn't, or if I didn't like the format used by whoever put in the tag info, then I would just type in the whole thing myself. It's a pain in the ass, but sometimes it's the only way. I recommend that you consider upgrading to WinAMP. It costs $20 but it's a thousand times better. And it gets its tags from Gracenote, and so far 100% of mine have been correct!!   



Also, check your settings. You may actually be telling it to create a folder with the artist's name to save in. I always tell it to use the album name, then I make the album name what I want it to be, all this before I ever start ripping.

[wtf]

Gurn! My hero!

I though winamp was free?

[Gurn Blanston]

Gurn! My hero!

I though winamp was free?

yes, it is free, but the free version is pretty crippled, it doesn't have a bunch of features that the pro version has, and which you will soon learn to love. MMJB was free too, but I registered it years ago (and got all those free updates  ) and never regretted it, until Yahoo bought them out and totally destroyed the product. But once you use a full featured version, you will not be able to tolerate the crippled version for a minute afterwards...

[wtf]

I don't want lots of features. All I want is my music to have the correct name, and to listen to it on WMP which I know and like, with the exception of this one annoying facet of it.

[Gurn Blanston]

I don't want lots of features. All I want is my music to have the correct name, and to listen to it on WMP which I know and like, with the exception of this one annoying facet of it.

Your choice. I've ripped thousands of CDs over the last 8 years, and I guess the features have gotten good to me. But you don't need them just to listen.

[wtf]

"In order to extract to MP3, you must purchase Winamp Pro.

Would you like more information on purchasing Winamp Pro?"

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
oooooooooo
o

!

[wtf]

Is there no free way I can rip classical CDs and it automatically give them the right title?

[Kullervo]

I use iTunes and never get the wrong title/performers, though the files are usually tagged in a way I don't like.

[wtf]

itunes does it in m4pcsb's or something though, doesn't it? I just want regular mp3s.

[PSmith08]

itunes does it in m4pcsb's or something though, doesn't it? I just want regular mp3s.

You can set your iTunes to rip into mp3 files of various and sundry sizes. Just go to Preferences>Advanced>Importing>Import Using and Import Setting. That's what I remember, in any event.

[wtf]

hooray!

Off to itunes then, I suppose. only trouble is it slows my computer down

OH LIFE WHY ARE YOU SO HARD?

[beclemund]

You may still get bad names... the only way to insure you get the names you want is to name your tags yourself. I know that is not very helpful, but the problem you describe is part in parcel for databases like Gracenote, FreeDB, MusicBrainz, and the like that require voluntary input of album information. That, combined with multiple releases of records and multiple pressings with different identifiers, leaves for quite a messy system.

I label all of my discs as I rip them. It takes just a couple of minutes (even less for four movement symphonies). I find that iTunes has the easiest UI for naming tracks too, so I let it manage my library and I rename files as I add them to the library after ripping with dBpoweramp (also not free).

[Kullervo]

I still haven't come up with a satisfactory way of tagging multiple works with the same opus number.

[Gurn Blanston]

I still haven't come up with a satisfactory way of tagging multiple works with the same opus number.

Could you be more specific, Corey?

[Kullervo]

Could you be more specific, Corey?

For example Beethoven's Op. 18 quartets. Should I tag it as String Quartet in [key]. Op. 18/x, or String Quartet No. X, Op. 18 in [key], or something else?

[Gurn Blanston]

For example Beethoven's Op. 18 quartets. Should I tag it as String Quartet in [key]. Op. 18/x, or String Quartet No. X, Op. 18 in [key], or something else?

Well, Beethoven is not the best choice for illustration purposes because I use the Biamonti catalog numbers in order to keep things organized and most people don't have access to that. But leaving that aside, my Op 18 ALBUM fields are numbered:

LvB Op 018 #1 Quartet in F for Strings

And the tracks are tagged:

LvB Op 018 #1 Quartet in F for Strings 1st mvmt - Allegro con brio

LvB Op 018 #1 Quartet in F for Strings 2nd mvmt - Adagio affetuoso ed appassionato

and so forth. I copy and past a lot, and I use the exact same format for everything. By using the numbered "1st" "2nd" etc it keeps the tracks in order even on machines that don't read a playlist, since the number forces the burner to put the tracks in order (on Windows FAT, don't know about Apple). The leading 0 when you know there will be 3 digit numbers (Op 135 for example) forces the same thing on your hard drive. Upper case for Major, lower case for minor, of course. Saves typing.

[mahlertitan]

For example Beethoven's Op. 18 quartets. Should I tag it as String Quartet in [key]. Op. 18/x, or String Quartet No. X, Op. 18 in [key], or something else?

I do it this way:

Folder - Beethoven
sub folder - chamber
sub folder - string quartets (which one, let's just say Lindsay)
   within this folder:
String Quartet No. xx, Op. xx in (key) - I. (movement one)
String Quartet No. xx, Op. xx in (key) - II. (movement two)
String Quartet No. xx, Op. xx in (key) - III. (movement three)
String Quartet No. xx, Op. xx in (key) - IV. (movement four)

[beclemund]

Generally, the catalog number or opus number will be the last thing on a name.

So something to the effect of:

String quartet no. 1 in F major, op. 18: i. Allegro con brio
String quartet no. 1 in F major, op. 18: ii. Adagio affettuoso ed appassionato
String quartet no. 1 in F major, op. 18: iii. Scherzo. Allegro molto
String quartet no. 1 in F major, op. 18: iv. Allegro

Since op. 18 includes SQ 1-6 you could also indicate the number after the opus number...

String quartet no. 1 in F major, op. 18, no. 1: i. Allegro con brio

Tho' it seems a little redundant. Some use a slash... so op. 18/1, but that can be tricky with some programs that convert titles to track names as Windows will have problems with putting a slash in there... Some apps will transform it to an underscore to solve that problem, but you never know.

Where it gets tricky is nicknames, editions, etc...

String quartet no. 10 in E-flat major, op. 74 ('Harp'): i. Poco adagio; Allegro

some place the nickname before the catalog or opus number...

String quartet no. 10 in E-flat major ('Harp'), op. 74: i. Poco adagio; Allegro

The important thing is to construct them in a way that is sensible to you. It is, after all, your collection, so your opinion is the one that matters.