Should you take LSD?

Started by lisa needs braces, May 18, 2018, 07:35:48 AM

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lisa needs braces

Looks like pscyhedelics are slowly coming out of the shadows and it's doctors and researchers doing the work of de-stigmatizing it:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/05/15/611225541/reluctant-psychonaut-michael-pollan-embraces-the-new-science-of-psychedelics


ComposerOfAvantGarde

I won't, personally, but I won't stop or judge others who are safe about it.

amw

Do it with another person around whom you can trust, and don't mix it with any other drugs (prescription or not). As far as I know the largest risk is just having a bad trip, it's not going to kill you or anything, but it might be unpleasant.

BasilValentine

#3
If one has a tendency toward depression, bipolar disorder or schizophrenia, definitely do not take LSD. Otherwise, the average dose on the street these days is apparently about a third the strength of that in the late 1960s and 70s, so prepare to be underwhelmed — or to take several hits. I'd start with one to be safe. Take blotter or microdot to avoid adulteration with other substances; It used to be common to cut larger tablets with speed, PCP or worse.

vandermolen

Quote from: jessop on May 18, 2018, 02:21:58 PM
I won't, personally, but I won't stop or judge others who are safe about it.
+1
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

aleazk

Guys, don't do drugs, there are better things to do... like listening to music.

snyprrr


aleazk

Why, you do both at the same time?  :P

vandermolen

Quote from: aleazk on May 19, 2018, 03:11:52 PM
Guys, don't do drugs, there are better things to do... like listening to music.
+1
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).


Karl Henning

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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Baron Scarpia

Ingesting a chemical which alters your brain dynamics in an undefined way. What could go wrong?

Ken B


lisa needs braces

Quote from: Ken B on May 25, 2018, 11:02:31 AM
Andrew Sullivan might be saner on LSD. Whatever he's been on the last 15 years is clearly much stronger.


;D

lisa needs braces

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 25, 2018, 08:32:39 AM
Ingesting a chemical which alters your brain dynamics in an undefined way. What could go wrong?


We have a huge thread dedicated to our appreciation of the consumption of alcohol, the most deadly and damaging drug, aside from heroin or cocaine.



Baron Scarpia

Quote from: -abe- on May 25, 2018, 11:28:42 AM

We have a huge thread dedicated to our appreciation of the consumption of alcohol, the most deadly and damaging drug, aside from heroin or cocaine.

Alcohol is a metabolic suppressor. Clearly it is dangerous when abused. But it does not alter brain dynamics by binding to receptors, as opiates, cocaine or other psychotropic drugs do.

Karl Henning

I think there is an addiction to pointing to alcohol, as if its use justifies any other recreational substance.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mahlerian

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 25, 2018, 01:00:10 PM
I think there is an addiction to pointing to alcohol, as if its use justifies any other recreational substance.

One major difference in my mind is that alcoholic beverages are enjoyed (by a large number of people) for many reasons other than merely their intoxicating effects, whereas the point of taking LSD or marijuana or some other recreational drug is for the effects, period, with anything else as an adjunct to that primary experience.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

BasilValentine

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Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 25, 2018, 11:36:22 AM
Alcohol is a metabolic suppressor. Clearly it is dangerous when abused. But it does not alter brain dynamics by binding to receptors, as opiates, cocaine or other psychotropic drugs do.

This is incorrect. Alcohol binds to gamma-aminobutyric-acid receptors in the brain, to N-methyl-d-aspertate receptors and even small amounts of alcohol increase dopamine in the nucleus accumbens area of the brain. It has multiple effects on brain chemistry by acting as agonist or antagonist at various receptor sites.

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 25, 2018, 01:37:54 PM
One major difference in my mind is that alcoholic beverages are enjoyed (by a large number of people) for many reasons other than merely their intoxicating effects, whereas the point of taking LSD or marijuana or some other recreational drug is for the effects, period, with anything else as an adjunct to that primary experience.

Sorry, but this is just wrong. All of the social and sensual effects of drinking are enjoyed equally by smokers of cannabis in various forms. Good hashish and weed is delicious — I'm told ;) — and unlike gin or beer, it tastes and smells good the first time one tries it — or so I have heard. People use it a social lubricant and as something to share in group settings (the family that smokes together ...). Perhaps I'll try it one of these days.

NikF

I don't know. But as long as it's legal I'm generally all for people eating, reading, watching, imbibing whatever (and fu--king whoever) they want to.
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