The String Quartet Game (Final Round)

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Sammy

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 23, 2018, 01:25:01 PM
I'm disappointed a bit by the lack of Mozart in the top 10, but most seemed rather uninterested in helping him in the final round.

I much prefer Haydn's string quartets to Mozart's.  However, when it became clear to me that my favorite Haydn quartet (op. 20/2) was going nowhere, I abandoned Haydn also.

My sole regret about the conclusion was that Zemlinsky's string quartet no. 2 didn't make the top ten.  It's my favorite string quartet of all, and I just can't figure out why everyone else doesn't share my opinion.  :D

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Mahlerian on May 23, 2018, 01:25:01 PM
I'm disappointed a bit by the lack of Mozart in the top 10, but most seemed rather uninterested in helping him in the final round.

The C major (K 465) is in my Top 5 faves, but early on no one else voted for it, and by the time Scarpia started to, I had switched over to a much more possible winner which is also one of my Top 5, as first 2 place winners were. 4, 5, 6, 8 & 10 are also high ranking with me, but they can't all finish on top!  :-\

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Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Sammy on May 23, 2018, 01:40:23 PMMy sole regret about the conclusion was that Zemlinsky's string quartet no. 2 didn't make the top ten.  It's my favorite string quartet of all, and I just can't figure out why everyone else doesn't share my opinion.  :D

What is your favorite recording of that work? I've been listening to it and find it intriguing and provoking but not entirely successful (LaSalle Quartet recording).

mc ukrneal

Why are some of you interpreting this as 'best of' list or 'favorites' list? Isn't it just a game?
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Sammy

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 23, 2018, 03:18:09 PM
What is your favorite recording of that work? I've been listening to it and find it intriguing and provoking but not entirely successful (LaSalle Quartet recording).

There are three at the top of my list:

Artis/Nimbus
Schoenberg/Chandos
Escher/Naxos

I've not yet heard the Brodsky on Chandos.

Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Sammy on May 23, 2018, 03:59:18 PM
There are three at the top of my list:

Artis/Nimbus
Schoenberg/Chandos
Escher/Naxos

I've not yet heard the Brodsky on Chandos.

That means you've heard LaSalle and it is lower on your list?

Baron Scarpia

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 23, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
Why are some of you interpreting this as 'best of' list or 'favorites' list? Isn't it just a game?

Well, it's a game in which we want our favorites to win.

Sammy

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 23, 2018, 04:00:11 PM
That means you've heard LaSalle and it is lower on your list?

It's been a few years since I listened to the LaSalle version.  I do remember not taking well to the sound quality, although I don't recall any specifics.  At any rate, it didn't impact me to the degree that the other three did.

Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Sammy on May 23, 2018, 04:10:25 PM
It's been a few years since I listened to the LaSalle version.  I do remember not taking well to the sound quality, although I don't recall any specifics.  At any rate, it didn't impact me to the degree that the other three did.

I find the sound quality ok but not outstanding. I have the Schoenberg/Chandos so I will try that next.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Baron Scarpia on May 23, 2018, 04:00:35 PM
Well, it's a game in which we want our favorites to win.
That's not how I approached my vote. Perhaps I was the odd man out in that respect. I think in the next game I do, I will take a bit of a different approach out of curiosity...
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Sammy

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 23, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
Why are some of you interpreting this as 'best of' list or 'favorites' list? Isn't it just a game?

Yes, it's a game that has conclusions.  To me, each game or round is its own world.  I enter this world, develop my strategies, cast my votes and influence/observe the results.

Don't get me wrong.  There's nothing earth shattering going on; the games are for fun and light entertainment.  However, I am a highly competitive person and much prefer that the works I vote for do well than end up in a heap on the floor.  Put another way, I want to win and will do everything I can within the rules to win.

San Antone

Quote from: Sammy on May 23, 2018, 04:46:27 PM
I want to win and will do everything I can within the rules to win.


Spoken like a true bulldog.   ;)

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: mc ukrneal on May 23, 2018, 03:56:39 PM
Why are some of you interpreting this as 'best of' list or 'favorites' list? Isn't it just a game?

If, on the list of 10 finalists, 6 of them are works I would pull out in a New York Second and happily listen to, then I feel pretty happy about that. In addition, that leaves 4 works which others I respect have chosen and which I can explore at my leisure. I may like the hell out of them, too. :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 23, 2018, 05:15:14 PM
If, on the list of 10 finalists, 6 of them are works I would pull out in a New York Second and happily listen to, then I feel pretty happy about that. In addition, that leaves 4 works which others I respect have chosen and which I can explore at my leisure. I may like the hell out of them, too. :)

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Then for me it's a good result as there are 8 I like of which 4 I really like. But it still looks pretty sad, with no Mozart, no Dvorak, no Shostakovich, only one Beethoven and yet a Kurtag.  At least no Ives!

Sammy

Quote from: Ken B on May 23, 2018, 07:06:28 PM

Then for me it's a good result as there are 8 I like of which 4 I really like. But it still looks pretty sad, with no Mozart, no Dvorak, no Shostakovich, only one Beethoven and yet a Kurtag.  At least no Ives!

You're looking at what's not on the list.  I look at what's actually there, and it looks good to me.  Mozart/Dvorak/Shostakovich/Beethoven have no automatic right to be on a top ten list; actually, I can't think of a single string quartet from anybody that gets an automatic entry.

As for the Kurtag and a few other modernist works being on the list, what would you expect?  We have modernist enthusiasts who really voted in this game; it's only reasonable that they would have some influence on the outcomes.  They said "yes" to Kurtag, and that's what it's all about.  The people have spoken.

Ken B

Quote from: Sammy on May 23, 2018, 07:21:57 PM
You're looking at what's not on the list.  I look at what's actually there, and it looks good to me.  Mozart/Dvorak/Shostakovich/Beethoven have no automatic right to be on a top ten list; actually, I can't think of a single string quartet from anybody that gets an automatic entry.

As for the Kurtag and a few other modernist works being on the list, what would you expect?  We have modernist enthusiasts who really voted in this game; it's only reasonable that they would have some influence on the outcomes.  They said "yes" to Kurtag, and that's what it's all about.  The people have spoken.

QuoteDemocracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

Sammy

Yes, democracy permeates the game environment - one person, ten votes.  :)

Ken B

Quote from: Sammy on May 23, 2018, 07:56:58 PM
Yes, democracy permeates the game environment - one person, ten votes.  :)
Chicago style!

Sammy

Quote from: Ken B on May 23, 2018, 08:11:18 PM
Chicago style!

For Chicago style it's one person, ten votes, twenty guns.

Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Sammy on May 23, 2018, 07:21:57 PM
You're looking at what's not on the list.  I look at what's actually there, and it looks good to me.  Mozart/Dvorak/Shostakovich/Beethoven have no automatic right to be on a top ten list; actually, I can't think of a single string quartet from anybody that gets an automatic entry.

As for the Kurtag and a few other modernist works being on the list, what would you expect?  We have modernist enthusiasts who really voted in this game; it's only reasonable that they would have some influence on the outcomes.  They said "yes" to Kurtag, and that's what it's all about.  The people have spoken.

The key point being that the game is about the preferences of people who actually show up.