The Snyprrr Appreciation Thread.

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 19, 2018, 04:49:55 AM
If it was something that was open for public discussion, I would have discussed it with the public a long time ago.
GB

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zamyrabyrd

Quote from: bwv 1080 on June 19, 2018, 07:42:50 AM
Yes, I forgot about that

And wasnt there also a guy who had some conspiracy theory about someone else writing Mozart's pieces?

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Karl Henning

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on June 19, 2018, 07:39:36 AM
This may be OT, but does anyone remember the guy who was channelling Glenn Gould?

That was quirky fun as much as I regard snyprrr as harmless and good for some chuckles.

That impression is aided by the quiet filtration.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: bwv 1080 on June 19, 2018, 07:42:50 AM
Yes, I forgot about that

And wasnt there also a guy who had some conspiracy theory about someone else writing Mozart's pieces?

I DO remember the Glenn Gould guy, but not his name. He was serious, which made him funnier. :)

The famous Rob Newman, of course. The Internet sensation. We entertained him for longer than most do, but eventually he broke down. I enjoyed Rob, he was in his own world, that's for sure!

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Rob "At Last It Can Be Told!" Newman
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San Antone

As a lover of Pelleas et Melisande I remember the GMG member who was so over the top about the opera that even I avoided the thread.

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: San Antone on June 19, 2018, 08:40:04 AM
As a lover of Pelleas et Melisande I remember the GMG member who was so over the top about the opera that even I avoided the thread.

;)

Our old friend Pinky. (Pink Harp). What a lovely fellow he was, don't understand how he irritated people so much. Of course, I never read the opera thread in those days... :)

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prémont

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 19, 2018, 08:25:45 AM
I DO remember the Glenn Gould guy, but not his name.

Contrapunctus, if I recall correctly.
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Quote from: (: premont :) on June 19, 2018, 09:35:48 AM
Contrapunctus, if I recall correctly.

Yes, that's it! Quite a character. :)

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Ken B

Whoa there. You mean even on GMG people still think Mozart wrote his own stuff??

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Ken B on June 19, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
Whoa there. You mean even on GMG people still think Mozart wrote his own stuff??

We're woefully behind the times here, Ken. Some people even think Haydn wrote his own stuff, which is ridiculous, as we know now. Those 2 were just figureheads for an entire Italian industry. Generous Austrians!  ::)

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Ken B

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 19, 2018, 11:34:49 AM
We're woefully behind the times here, Ken. Some people even think Haydn wrote his own stuff, which is ridiculous, as we know now. Those 2 were just figureheads for an entire Italian industry. Generous Austrians!  ::)

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All I know for sure is that when Mozart was a kid in England he got his hands on a trunk full of music by the Earl of Oxford,  Edward De Vere,  and passed it off as his own over the years. I had heard the rumor that Roger Bacon wrote all of Haydn's stuff, but didn't really believe it until now.

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 19, 2018, 04:49:55 AM
If it was something that was open for public discussion, I would have discussed it with the public a long time ago. If I had business with you, you wouldn't be bloody happy if I posted it all out here for everyone to read. I respect privacy, as should we all.

GB

How can anyone be reassured that you've made the right decision?

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amw

I imagine it was discussed by the moderation team internally. That's generally been standard practice in my experience of moderating web forums.

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Mandryka on June 19, 2018, 09:49:09 PM
How can anyone be reassured that you've made the right decision?


Because most others would have outright banned him for the repetitive and insulting nature of some of his posts. I know I would have. So the fact that they have given themselves more work in an effort to keep a member tells me that they have made the right decision.
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Mandryka

Quote from: mc ukrneal on June 19, 2018, 10:29:48 PM
Because most others would have outright banned him for the repetitive and insulting nature of some of his posts.

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SurprisedByBeauty

All I know is that snyprrr never wrote anything I wasn't able to ignore. Made especially easy by the fact that you can tell one of his posts, typographically and smilographically, from a mile away.

Florestan

I am one of the very few GMG members who have actually lived in a regime where freely speaking one's own mind was a risky business that not unfrequently could have landed one in jail, or worse, so I am particularly sensitive to the issue of free speech. Therefore, allowing for many of his posts being sheer incoherent rants, I find the decision to moderate each and every future post of his greatly exaggerated; I know the moderators will not agree and will protest to the contrary, but I can't help saying that it smells like censorship to me.

By writing this I don't want to get into a polemic: just wanted to say that for someone who has experienced censorship first hand seeing it (or the appearance of it) even on an innocuous and inconsequential internet forum* is disturbing.

* seriously now, does anyone really believe that snyprrr's posts, read at most by a handful of people and taken seriously by even less, are so dangerous and socially disruptive as to warrant the moderators taking the trouble to expurgate them ad usum GMGi? Obnoxious to some people they certainly are, but if this is a criterion for "censoring" or banning them, then we should all cease posting altogether because pretty much everything we say could be potentially obnoxious to someone, somewhere.

Furthermore, as Jens said, Snyprrrr's posts could have been easily ignored altogether, but it seems to me that at least one person took a guilty pleasure in reading and replying to almost each and every one of them.

My two cents and I'm not going to pursue the matter any further. (Note to moderators: I mean no offense to you, gentlemen, and I hope you won't take any.)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Florestan on June 20, 2018, 12:10:52 AM
I am one of the very few GMG members who have actually lived in a regime where freely speaking one's own mind was a risky business that not unfrequently could have landed one in jail, or worse, so I am particularly sensitive to the issue of free speech. Therefore, allowing for many of his posts being sheer incoherent rants, I find the decision to moderate each and every future post of his greatly exaggerated; I know the moderators will not agree and will protest to the contrary, but I can't help saying that it smells like censorship to me.

By writing this I don't want to get into a polemic: just wanted to say that for someone who has experienced censorship first hand seeing it (or the appearance of it) even on an innocuous and inconsequential internet forum* is disturbing.

* seriously now, does anyone really believe that snyprrr's posts, read at most by a handful of people and taken seriously by even less, are so dangerous and socially disruptive as to warrant the moderators taking the trouble to expurgate them ad usum GMGi? Obnoxious to some people they certainly are, but if this is a criterion for "censoring" or banning them, then we should all cease posting altogether because pretty much everything we say could be potentially obnoxious to someone, somewhere.

Furthermore, as Jens said, Snyprrrr's posts could have been easily ignored altogether, but it seems to me that at least one person took a guilty pleasure in reading and replying to almost each and every one of them.

My two cents and I'm not going to pursue the matter any further. (Note to moderators: I mean no offense to you, gentlemen, and I hope you won't take any.)
The whole reason I came here was to escape from Boards that allowed 'anything goes'. I was tired of the put downs, insults, rudeness, cruelty, bullying, general offensiveness, etc. that could be found on some other forums (specifically, one other forum). The moderation of the site is something we all agreed to when we signed up.

I look at everything with a bit of a different light though. Are there posts on the site that would dissuade anyone from joining the site? And while I can confidently say that most music threads do not have posts that would turn anyone away or off, I cannot say the same about many non-music threads. I think we lose members (or potential members) in this way.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: SurprisedByBeauty on June 19, 2018, 10:49:43 PM
All I know is that snyprrr never wrote anything I wasn't able to ignore. Made especially easy by the fact that you can tell one of his posts, typographically and smilographically, from a mile away.

Me too. But I could also see that others might have a hard time ignoring some of that stuff. There were always hateful comments hidden amongst the stream-of-consciousness bits of amusement. There is an ethical responsibility to this job which requires looking past my own tastes and abilities. If I was just a member, I would have dealt with this far more easily than as a mod. :-\

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