Your Top Five Melodists

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Ken B

#40
June 24, 2018, 05:39:22 AM
Quote from: Sergeant Rock on June 24, 2018, 05:17:46 AM
Some of my favorites from the "five" composers I listed in my original post:

Mahler the Almschi theme from the Finale of Symphony No.10 https://youtu.be/p0D_ByNajKg?t=4186
Mahler Andante from Symphony No.6 https://youtu.be/E7y0_Z3uXts?t=2125
Tchaikovsky Pas de deux from the Nutcracker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5USHu6D6U
Tchaikovsky Swan theme from Swan Lake https://youtu.be/9cNQFB0TDfY?t=4
Elgar "Sabbath Morning at Sea" from Sea Pictures https://youtu.be/GauIMo8Manc?t=580
Vaughan Williams Fantasia from Symphony No.8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlZuR_KQa2g
Fauré Pavane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD2SOMlKf4w
Fauré Sicilienne from Pelleas et Melisande https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-ucDjeG_XM
Saint-Saens the simple, hymn-like main theme from the last movement of the Piano Concerto No.4 https://youtu.be/gjUuri84-jk?t=1248
Satie Gnossienne No.4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgsnRLPIUD0

I expected to see Waltz #2 ...

Sergeant Rock

#41
June 24, 2018, 06:16:16 AM
Quote from: Ken B on June 24, 2018, 05:39:22 AM
I expected to see Waltz #2 ...

It was in the running  8)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Florestan

#42
June 24, 2018, 06:42:15 AM
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Ken B

#43
June 24, 2018, 06:54:03 AM
Quote from: Florestan on June 24, 2018, 12:40:09 AM
A general consensus seems to emerge around Mozart, Schubert, Dvorak and Tchaikovsky.  :)

True. In light of my having been in the majority I wish to change my list.

Webern
Ferneyhough
Stockhausen
Boulez
Yoko Ono

Florestan

#44
June 24, 2018, 06:55:46 AM
Quote from: Ken B on June 24, 2018, 06:54:03 AM
True. In light of my having been in the majority I wish to change my list.

Webern
Ferneyhough
Stockhausen
Boulez
Yoko Ono

You might want to replace Yoko Ono with Sachiko M.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Ken B

#45
June 24, 2018, 06:58:02 AM
Quote from: Florestan on June 24, 2018, 06:55:46 AM
You might want to replace Yoko Ono with Sachiko M.  ;D
Actually, Ono is the best melodist on my list!

Florestan

#46
June 24, 2018, 06:59:38 AM
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Florestan

#47
June 24, 2018, 07:00:17 AM
Quote from: Ken B on June 24, 2018, 06:58:02 AM
Actually, Ono is the best melodist on my list!

Precisely.  :laugh:
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Brian

#48
June 24, 2018, 07:45:02 AM
Oops, forgot the slow movement of the Barber violin concerto on my list of specific favorite melodies.

Mahlerian

#49
June 24, 2018, 07:55:20 AM
Quote from: Ken B on June 24, 2018, 06:58:02 AM
Actually, Ono is the best melodist on my list!

You say this only because you don't actually listen to any of them.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Ken B

#50
June 24, 2018, 08:05:48 AM
Quote from: Mahlerian on June 24, 2018, 07:55:20 AM
You say this only because you don't actually listen to any of them.
Or the reverse.

Mahlerian

#51
June 24, 2018, 08:32:13 AM
Quote from: Ken B on June 24, 2018, 08:05:48 AM
Or the reverse.

I would be surprised if you were as familiar with the work of Webern, Boulez, and Stockhausen as I am.  Maybe you do really love their music after all.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Ken B

#52
June 24, 2018, 08:41:46 AM
Quote from: Mahlerian on June 24, 2018, 08:32:13 AM
I would be surprised if you were as familiar with the work of Webern, Boulez, and Stockhausen as I am.  Maybe you do really love their music after all.
If only you knew more you'd agree with me.

Mahlerian

#53
June 24, 2018, 08:44:58 AM Last Edit: June 24, 2018, 08:53:13 AM by Mahlerian
Quote from: Ken B on June 24, 2018, 08:41:46 AM
If only you knew more you'd agree with me.

It's not about agreement or disagreement.  I didn't mean to say that I thought Stockhausen, Webern, et al were the greatest melodists.  I meant to say that if you actually listened to their music, you would at least be aware that it is, in fact, full of melodies.  It's not an opinion, just a matter of construction.

I am asking, though.  Do you know, for example, the melody that begins the second movement of Le marteau sans maitre?  It went through my mind as I was typing this.  If you don't know any of the melodies in these composers' work, how can you make any evaluation of their quality?

I've heard a few of Raff's symphonies, and I don't remember a single melody from any of them.  That doesn't make me want to ridicule the person who selected Raff for this thread, it simply makes me aware of the fact that they remember those melodies and enjoy them, and I don't even remember them well enough to have any opinion of them.
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

flyingdutchman

#54
June 24, 2018, 04:43:57 PM
Tchaikovsky, Dvorak, Mendelssohn, Schubert, Schumann

springrite

#55
June 24, 2018, 05:17:06 PM
Quote from: Florestan on June 23, 2018, 07:04:09 AM
Great list, although --- believe me or not --- I have never heard one single note of Glass.  :)

Well, there are only 5 notes in total, so you should really go ahead and get it over with.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Daverz

#56
June 24, 2018, 06:31:16 PM
Prokofiev
Dvorak
Schubert
Boccherini
Mozart

bwv 1080

#57
June 25, 2018, 07:46:33 AM
This is no mean feat of melodic writing -  a memorable solo piccolo piece

https://www.youtube.com/v/k2wBFWwJBNA

vandermolen

#58
June 27, 2018, 10:15:06 AM Last Edit: June 27, 2018, 10:17:11 AM by vandermolen
Malcolm Arnold
Debussy
Martinu
Glazunov
Tchaikovsky
Allan Pettersson (only joking)

Atterberg (not joking)
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

DaveF

#59
June 27, 2018, 12:15:14 PM
I'm surprised Strauss R. hasn't had a mention yet - he might get onto my list, were it not for

Du Fay
Dunstaple
Dowland
Byrd and
Morley
"All the world is birthday cake" - George Harrison
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