Your 5 favorite musical forms

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North Star

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String Quartets

Janáček No. 2
Beethoven Op. 131
Schubert D. 887
Bartók No. 5
Dutilleux



Sonatas for piano & violin

Prokofiev no. 1
Brahms no. 1
Enescu no. 3
Ravel no. 2
Janáček



Concertos

Sibelius Violin Concerto
Ravel Piano Concerto
Berg Violin Concerto
Mozart Piano Concerto no. 24 in c minor K. 491
Martinů Double Concerto H. 271 for 2 string orchestras, piano & timpani




Piano Sonatas

Beethoven Op. 111
Schubert D. 960
Liszt B minor
Chopin no. 3
Schumann no. 1



Non-sonata solo piano

Ravel Gaspard de la nuit
Janáček In the mist
Liszt Troisième années de pelerinage S. 163
Godowsky Passacaglia
Debussy Préludes
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Florestan

Piano Sonatas

Mozart - KV 310
Beethoven - Pathetique
Schubert - D 960
Chopin - Op. 58
Medtner -Night Wind

Piano Music

Mozart - Variations on "Salve tu domine"
Schubert - Moments Musicaux D 780
Chopin - Etudes Op. 10
Schumann - Kinderszenen
Tchaikovsky - The Seasons

Piano Trios

Haydn - Hob XV:28
Mozart - KV 254
Beethoven - Archduke
Schubert - Notturno D 897
Brahms / Chopin - Op. 8

Serenades

Mozart - Posthorn
Brahms - Op. 11
Dvorak - Op. 22
Tchaikovsky - Op. 48
Fuchs - Op. 21

Lieder / Ballads / Art Songs

Schubert - Die Sterne
Schumann - Im wunderschonen Monat Mai
Loewe - Fridericus Rex
Faure - Le papillon et la fleur
Satie - Je te veux

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SymphonicAddict

Quote from: Florestan on April 09, 2019, 11:14:03 AM
Serenades

Mozart - Posthorn
Brahms - Op. 11
Dvorak - Op. 22
Tchaikovsky - Op. 48
Fuchs - Op. 21

Lieder / Ballads / Art Songs

Schubert - Die Sterne
Schumann - Im wunderschonen Monat Mai
Loewe - Fridericus Rex
Faure - Le papillon et la fleur
Satie - Je te veux

Unusual and interesting musical forms. This is one reason why I find these threads alluring and fun. You always see something different and contrasting with your choices, and you always learn from others.

ChopinBroccoli

Really interesting lists!  Plenty of homework for me to do

My choices for a few forms (not static, of course... all are subject to considerable change over time)

5 Piano Concerto:

Grieg A minor
Bartok no. 2
Mozart no. 20
Rachmaninoff no. 2
Liszt no. 1

5 Symphonies:
Beethoven 5
Shostakovich 1
Schubert 9 (Great C Major)
Dvorak 8
Brahms 2

5 Tone Poems (only 5?? I adore Tone poems) :
Prometheus (Scriabin)
Prélude à l'après-midi d'un faune (Debussy)
A Midsummer Night's Dream (Mendelssohn)
Death and Transfiguration (R. Strauss)
Romeo and Juliet (Tchaikovsky)

Ballet Music/incidental Opera music (ok, an admittedly arbitrary category) :

Daphnis et Chloe (Ravel)
Tristan und Isolde (Wagner)
The Firebird (Stravinsky)
Il Barbiere de Siviglia (Rossini)
The Nutcracker (Tchaikovsky --- I know, I know... your tone deaf neighbor likes it so therefore we must rage against it... whatever, I find it delightful and ingenious in its suite form)

Piano Sonata:

Schubert no 20
Schubert no 21
Prokofiev no 8
Liszt B Minor
Chopin no 2

Other long form solo piano works:

Iberia (Albeniz)
Variations on a Theme of Corelli (Rachmaninoff)
Gaspard de la nuit (Ravel)
Nocturnes (Chopin)
Preludes (Debussy)

None of these is strict... there's dozens of pieces I could happily substitute and quite a few of my favorite composers neglected ... fun, but difficult topic


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- Handel

Wanderer

#24
Lists for today - one work per composer:

Piano Concerti:

Beethoven 4 (with Medtner's cadenzas)
Mozart 20 (with Alkan's cadenzas)
Scriabin
Medtner 1
Brahms 1
Tchaikovsky 2
Ravel in D for the left hand
Korngold in C-sharp for the left hand
Dvořák
Henselt
Hummel in A minor (op.85)
Tovey
R. Strauss Burleske
Busoni
Schumann op.92 - or op.134
Skalkottas 2
Scharwenka 4
Rachmaninov 4
Prokofiev 2
Liszt 2
Foulds Dynamic Triptych


Violin Concerti

Beethoven
Brahms
Schumann
Elgar
Dvořák
Sibelius


Violin Sonatas

Beethoven 9
Brahms 1
Alkan Grand Duo Concertant
Elgar
Medtner 2

Symphonies

Beethoven 3
Brahms 1 - or 2 - or 4
Bruckner 9 (with finale)
Debussy La mer
Messiaen Turangalîla-Symphonie
Schmidt 2 - or 1
Mahler 10 - or 8 - or Das Lied von der Erde
Mozart 38
Nielsen 4
Berlioz Symphonie fantastique
Korngold Sinfonietta
Schreker Kammersymphonie
Schubert 8 - or 9
Schumann 2
Shostakovich 10
Sibelius 7 - or Kullervo
Vaughan Williams 1
Elgar 2
Dvořák 8
Liszt Dante-Symphonie


Piano Sonatas

Beethoven op.110
Brahms 3
Schumann 2
Schubert D.960
Liszt B minor
Alkan Grande Sonate "Les quatre âges"
Janáček "1.X.1905"
Medtner op.25/2 "Night Wind"
Scriabin 4
Chopin 3







Wanderer

Overtures!

Beethoven "Die Weihe des Hauses" - or Leonore 2
Wagner Lohengrin - or Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg - or Tristan und Isolde - or Die Walküre
Mozart Die Zauberflöte - or Le nozze di Figaro - or Die Entführung aus dem Serail
Mendelssohn "Meeresstille und glückliche Fahrt"
R. Strauss Festliches Präludium

some guy

I have a question about the musical forms that have been mentioned so far--how many of them are musical forms?

Seems to me that many of them are categories not forms, several are categories of instrumentation.

I stumbled across this idea when I was considering offering some pieces that were sui generis as my favorite pieces tend to be their own forms as well. But one of those was an octet, and according to this thread, an octet is a form. But "octet" denotes the number of players, not a form. Same with quartets or trios or duets and so forth.

There are forms. Theme and variations. Sonata allegro. Rondo. Ternary form (which a fair number of scherzos use). But that doesn't seem to be what this thread has elicited at all.

Quartet is not a form, however, but a designation of the number of players. The forms that those four people play could be anything.

Sure, many of the categories mentioned so far, like piano concerto, do have a fair number of items that follow similar structures. But that's just tradition. Doesn't mean a piano concerto is a form. And certainly doesn't mean a piano concerto is a different form from a violin concerto. And a piano sonata is a sonata played by a piano, not a different form from a sonata played by a cello.

SymphonicAddict

Quote from: some guy on July 22, 2019, 02:41:22 AM
I have a question about the musical forms that have been mentioned so far--how many of them are musical forms?

Seems to me that many of them are categories not forms, several are categories of instrumentation.

I stumbled across this idea when I was considering offering some pieces that were sui generis as my favorite pieces tend to be their own forms as well. But one of those was an octet, and according to this thread, an octet is a form. But "octet" denotes the number of players, not a form. Same with quartets or trios or duets and so forth.

There are forms. Theme and variations. Sonata allegro. Rondo. Ternary form (which a fair number of scherzos use). But that doesn't seem to be what this thread has elicited at all.

Quartet is not a form, however, but a designation of the number of players. The forms that those four people play could be anything.

Sure, many of the categories mentioned so far, like piano concerto, do have a fair number of items that follow similar structures. But that's just tradition. Doesn't mean a piano concerto is a form. And certainly doesn't mean a piano concerto is a different form from a violin concerto. And a piano sonata is a sonata played by a piano, not a different form from a sonata played by a cello.

Thanks for the enlightening comment. Since I'm not a musician or anything like that but a mere aficionado listener, I wasn't clear about the differences between those terms, so the main idea comes to be kinds of musical compositions. Nevertheless, I found this on Wikipedia that kind of agrees with my criterion, at least about Piano Trio:

E.g. Piano Trio: «... It is one of the most common forms found in classical chamber music...»

caters

Symphonies
Beethoven's Fifth(obviously my favorite, I just love that passion and drama that Beethoven does so well)
Beethoven's Ninth
Eroica Symphony
Symphony no. 40 K 550(I have even noticed similarities between this symphony and Beethoven's Fifth)
Surprise Symphony

Piano Sonatas
Piano Sonata no. 16 K 545 "Sonata facile"(My favorite Mozart piano piece and the first piano sonata I ever learned(which believe it or not, was during my first year of piano lessons)
Piano Sonata op. 13 no. 8 "Pathetique"(My favorite piano sonata of all time)
Piano Sonata in C minor K 457
Appassionata Sonata
Kreutzer Sonata(Sorry if I misspelled that)

String Quartets
Dissonance Quartet
Eine Kleine Nachtmusik(Does it even count? I'm counting it because of the instrumentation it was written for)

Piano Concertos
Piano Concerto no. 3 in C minor
Piano Concerto no. 21 K 467(This piece prepared me for the complex rhythms of Chopin)

Suites
Peer Gynt Suite no. 1
The Nutcracker Suite
The Planets
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Uses Classical Music as examples of music theory concepts rather than just simplified demonstrations
Eras included: Baroque-Romantic cause that's where my expertise lies

Mirror Image

Quote from: Mirror Image on March 20, 2019, 07:43:21 AM
Oh boy, let's see....(all choices in no particular order)

Concerti:

Ravel: Concerto for the left-hand
Bartók: Piano Concerto No. 3
Martinů: Oboe Concerto
Stravinsky: Violin Concerto
Poulenc: Concerto for Two Pianos

Ballets:

Debussy: Jeux
Ravel: Ma mère l'oye
Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin
Stravinsky: Apollon musagète
Prokofiev: Le pas d'acier, Op. 41

Solo Piano:

Debussy: Études
Ravel: Miroirs
Bartók: Out of Doors
Fauré: Nocturne No. 13 in B minor, Op. 119
Janáček: Piano Sonata 1.X.1905

Sonatas for various instruments and piano:

Debussy: Cello Sonata
Ravel: Violin Sonata in G major
Enescu: Cello Sonata No. 2 in C major, Op. 26/2
Barber: Cello Sonata
Poulenc: Clarinet Sonata

Choral:

Debussy: La damoiselle élue
Fauré: Requiem
Duruflé: Requiem
Szymanowski: Litany to the Virgin Mary
Stravinsky: Mass

Looking at this list again, I'm still rather content with this list. :)