Digital has Killed Music both Recorded media and HI-Fi

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Sydney Nova Scotia

But I have a plan.

 

I'm going to burn all digital music source data ...............:lol:
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Madiel

That's nice, dear. Now, don't forget to take your pills.
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Elgarian Redux

"Digital has Killed Music both Recorded media and Hi-Fi"?

I look at my wonderful collection of CDs, more extensive than I ever dreamed was possible in the days of vinyl. And I remember those days of fiddly turntable adjustments, acoustic feedback, the difficulty of getting good pressings, the hideous effect of end-of-side distortion on operatic climaxes, the impossible-to-ignore surface noise, etc etc.

And I think, not for me it hasn't.

71 dB

Digital what? Digital audio? Digital downloads? Please specify what you mean.

Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

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steve ridgway

Quote from: Elgarian Redux on September 26, 2018, 12:52:33 AM
"Digital has Killed Music both Recorded media and Hi-Fi"?

I look at my wonderful collection of CDs, more extensive than I ever dreamed was possible in the days of vinyl. And I remember those days of fiddly turntable adjustments, acoustic feedback, the difficulty of getting good pressings, the hideous effect of end-of-side distortion on operatic climaxes, the impossible-to-ignore surface noise, etc etc.

And I think, not for me it hasn't.

And there are many wonders to be found in digital copies of out of production recordings that would be impossible or prohibitively expensive to buy. Actually I enjoy the clicks, crackles and rumbles on some of these, they add to the nostalgia ;).

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MN Dave

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Ghost of Baron Scarpia

I, for one, am grateful. You're solipsistic neighbor is much more likely to be blowing his or her eardrums out with an iPhone and a pair of ear buds than a HiFi.

Archaic Torso of Apollo

Quote from: Elgarian Redux on September 26, 2018, 12:52:33 AM
fiddly turntable adjustments, acoustic feedback, the difficulty of getting good pressings, the hideous effect of end-of-side distortion on operatic climaxes, the impossible-to-ignore surface noise, etc etc.

That's part of the fun. You can take a record and do various things to it to make it sound better, and then you feel like you've achieved something. With a CD, all you can do is get better equipment to play it on. (I admit that has its advantages.)
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Irons

Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 26, 2018, 07:23:59 AM
That's part of the fun. You can take a record and do various things to it to make it sound better, and then you feel like you've achieved something. With a CD, all you can do is get better equipment to play it on. (I admit that has its advantages.)

Well put. You need masochistic tendencies to shun digital and embrace analogue. It is too easy to buy a CD and stick it in the player's tray. As well as setting up a system to achieve the best results from vinyl, I get satisfaction from finding interesting music on LP. 
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Cato

Quote from: Elgarian Redux on September 26, 2018, 12:52:33 AM
"Digital has Killed Music both Recorded media and Hi-Fi"?

I look at my wonderful collection of CDs, more extensive than I ever dreamed was possible in the days of vinyl. And I remember those days of fiddly turntable adjustments, acoustic feedback, the difficulty of getting good pressings, the hideous effect of end-of-side distortion on operatic climaxes, the impossible-to-ignore surface noise, etc etc.

And I think, not for me it hasn't.

That's a BIG AMEN!   0:)

CD's are wonderful in general!  NO needle to scratch the record or eventually wear out the vinyl and cause distortion!  My first CD was Schoenberg's Verklaerte Nacht on London: I won it in a radio contest in 1985!  I did not even own a CD player at the time, because about 5 years earlier I had invested in a Bang and Olufsen record player.  But the benefits of a CD were clear!
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Elgarian Redux

Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on September 26, 2018, 07:23:59 AM
That's part of the fun. You can take a record and do various things to it to make it sound better, and then you feel like you've achieved something.

At first I found it a kind of fun. But I never did achieve anything. I changed headshells, turntable mats, record clamps, turntable damping - all that stuff. Never made any audible difference to me. The real killer was when I started comparing pressings of the same LP: now THERE were differences I couldn't ignore, that made all my twiddlings futile.

QuoteWith a CD, all you can do is get better equipment to play it on. (I admit that has its advantages.)

Well yes, exactly. And then, having done so, I was able to forget about the technology and listen to the music.

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Elgarian Redux on September 26, 2018, 09:32:03 AMWell yes, exactly. And then, having done so, I was able to forget about the technology and listen to the music.

Exactly!

Elgarian Redux

Quote from: Irons on September 26, 2018, 07:43:44 AM
It is too easy to buy a CD and stick it in the player's tray.

I heartily agree with 14/15ths of this post.


PerfectWagnerite

New cars don't even come with cd players anymore, except cars made for old folks like a Lexus, because grandpa doesn't know how to stream music via bluetooth to the car.

Florestan

Digital hasn't killed any music, on the contrary, there is much more music available now for domestic consumption than at any time in the past --- for which I can't be grateful enough.

It's possible, though, that ALL recorded media, starting with the earliest radio broadcasts, LPs and cassettes, have killed domestic music-making --- an unintended but nonetheless very bad consequence.
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Florestan on September 26, 2018, 10:35:57 AM
Digital hasn't killed any music, on the contrary, there is much more music available now for domestic consumption than at any time in the past --- for which I can't be grateful enough.

It's possible, though, that ALL recorded media, starting with the earliest radio broadcasts, LPs and cassettes, have killed domestic music-making --- an unintended but nonetheless very bad consequence.

Very much agree with this entire post. When I was very young, I was privileged to have the acquaintance of many quite old people, who had been brought up playing instruments and singing, etc. in their homes. Thus we had that in OUR home, and it wasn't until they all died that I realized what a great thing had been given me and now was gone. When MY generation dies out, there won't be many who remember it from when they were young.

"yes, son, I remember when we used to gather around the computer after dinner and stream Pink..."  :'(

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Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on September 26, 2018, 11:20:17 AM"yes, son, I remember when we used to gather around the computer after dinner and stream Pink..."  :'(

There will be HIP Pink, too!

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