Started by Irons, November 22, 2018, 11:40:48 PM
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Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on November 23, 2018, 07:25:22 AMNot quite sure I understand your question.We've had some LP-related threads, as well as any number of threads about mid-20th century music, which would be the LP era. Are you proposing to combine them in some specific way?
Quote from: Irons on November 24, 2018, 01:02:34 AMNot sure I understand it myself. There is a train-spotting element to collecting vinyl, masses of minutia concerning labels, sound engineers, recording locations and playback, which only a vinyl-head would find of interest and frankly would bore GMG members. That aside, no matter what, the music always comes first and that is why I mentioned it. Recently there was a fascinating thread on GMG "Pianists on LP" I am unable to recall the exact title. Every era, 78's, LP, CD and now Downloads, produces "stars" and artists from past generations fade from view. It has always been thus.I did not think such a thread in all honesty was a goer. Thanks for your response.
Quote from: aligreto on November 24, 2018, 01:23:10 AMI am something of a vinyl collector in a small way but my knowledge of such things is quite limited. I do find them interesting though. There are a number of members here who have good knowledge and memory of the vinyl age. Therefore, may I suggest that you kick things off and see what type of response you get. I will contribute in whatever way that I can and the worst that can happen to me is that I might actually learn something. Others might find suitable topics for discussion as they arise.
Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on November 24, 2018, 07:50:41 PMThis is another that blew my mind when I found the very elaborate LP set from 1949. Then I found a CD transfer.
Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on November 24, 2018, 07:50:41 PMI don't think awareness of recording minutia such as sound engineers, producers, locations, microphone configurations, etc, requires vinyl. I'm a big fan of some of the producers from the golden age of stereo and it is great to hear their work as they heard it when they listened to the playback of their master tapes. I had a brief vinyl infatuation, but it faded fast. The only thing that tempts me back to vinyl are all of the monaural Mercury records that never made it to CD or SACD. But whenever I have found one on vinyl, it has sounded terrible.Here's a great one that languished.This is another that blew my mind when I found the very elaborate LP set from 1949. Then I found a CD transfer.
Quote from: Irons on November 25, 2018, 01:31:21 AMCD is a great resource of historical recordings.Analogue and digital are different animals as are the LP record and CD. A CD is a replica, the first to the thousandth, and country of manufacture, they are the same. A first edition LP pressing is far more dynamic then pressings further down the line. In the case of Decca, a Dutch pressing has a different sound signature to the same recording from the UK. It is easy on hearing a piece to distinguish from a Philips or EMI recording. There are far more variables with LP.You make a good point that you are just as able to appreciate the efforts of sound engineers, venues etc on CD. In the age of the CD this does not appear to me to be so important with digital recording and transfers. I may be wrong there.The CD v LP debate bores me and I feel no missionary zeal to promote vinyl. I just enjoy listening to records.
Quote from: aligreto on November 25, 2018, 02:23:14 AMI also agree with this but I do also like handling and taking care of my vinyl. Weird, yes, but hey....
Quote from: Irons on November 26, 2018, 12:32:32 AMI was given a heads up on Supraphon issues of chamber music many years ago and collected them ever since. The Czech label Supraphon ordered from the United States state of the art Fairchild recording equipment. They took delivery just as the "Iron Curtain" took effect which effectively stopped all trade with the West. This gave Supraphon a massive advantage over other recording companies in the Eastern Block.With the advent of stereo Supraphon designated red labels for stereo and blue for mono. After a short period red labels were dropped and nearly all, stereo and mono, were blue labels. It is said that the early red label issues were recorded with the all valve (tube) Fairchild equipment and the later blue labels with in-house modern transistor based equipment. I take the premise that all red label issues are recorded with valve equipment with a pinch of salt. It makes for a good story but too neat and tidy and that is one thing recording companies never are.I do not set out to collect the earlier and supposedly better sounding red labels. It is a fact though that the Supraphon on my shelves with the best sound does happen to have a red label.
Quote from: vandermolen on November 26, 2018, 12:54:39 AMI have kept some of my most treasured vinyls (Boult's EMI Vaughan Williams symphonies box for example) and occasionally buy an LP which meant a lot to me (Karajan's DGG recording of Honegger's 'Liturgique' Symphony for example). However, I need a new turntable as my daughter purloined my old one.
Quote from: Irons on November 26, 2018, 06:14:23 AMChatting to the chap at a second-hand LP/CD shop I visit, he said a surprising amount of customers purchase LPs and do not own a turntable.
Quote from: Ghost of Baron Scarpia on November 26, 2018, 06:15:22 AMMakes perfect sense to me. The cover is the best part!
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