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Offline Irons

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #420 on: April 05, 2020, 11:25:03 PM »
Yes! I had several of those issues decades ago (they were my first exposure to Bartók’s music, along with the Boulez recordings on Columbia) and they were very beautifully produced.

Some of the sets have the dates published in small print which is unusual for East European labels (Melodiya excepted). The earliest I have is 1967 - bound to be many before then - and stretches through the 1970's.
As you say they are beautifully turned out with details of works and artists in English translation along with many photos. I was interested to read from PD that the edition had a CD release but for big money. I didn't know that.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #421 on: April 06, 2020, 04:18:12 AM »
The violin concerto, etc. LP looks quite tempting (though I don't know anything about the musicians nor conductors involved).

Here's a link to the complete set on CD on Amazon.com:  https://www.amazon.com/Hungarotons-Bartok-B/dp/B00004YLIJ/ref=sr_1_22?crid=3PFYM6N10E611&dchild=1&keywords=bartok+complete+edition&qid=1586178902&sprefix=complete+bartok+ed%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-22

Ouch!

Best wishes,

PD

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #422 on: April 06, 2020, 05:42:55 AM »
The violin concerto, etc. LP looks quite tempting (though I don't know anything about the musicians nor conductors involved).

Here's a link to the complete set on CD on Amazon.com:  https://www.amazon.com/Hungarotons-Bartok-B/dp/B00004YLIJ/ref=sr_1_22?crid=3PFYM6N10E611&dchild=1&keywords=bartok+complete+edition&qid=1586178902&sprefix=complete+bartok+ed%2Caps%2C200&sr=8-22

Ouch!

Best wishes,

PD

Gordon Bennett!

Stay safe, P.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #423 on: April 06, 2020, 06:07:21 AM »
Gordon Bennett!

Stay safe, P.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #424 on: April 06, 2020, 07:09:49 AM »

Ritter, do you recall which ones you had and how you liked them?

Sorry for the late reply, PD. One of them definitely was The Wooden Prince Irons pictured above. Also IIRC, an LP with the Piano Concerto No. 3, and then another with Duke Bluebeard’s Castle. I remember enjoying them at the time, but it’s been more than 30 years since I’m separated from them.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #425 on: April 06, 2020, 08:22:11 AM »
Thanks Ritter!   :)

By the way Irons, I had to look up what Gordon Bennett meant (though I had a hunch what you meant)!  ;)

PD

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #426 on: April 06, 2020, 08:56:32 AM »
Thanks Ritter!   :)

By the way Irons, I had to look up what Gordon Bennett meant (though I had a hunch what you meant)!  ;)

PD

It is odd that a well known and used cockney (which I am) term is derived from a fellow countryman of yours, P.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #427 on: April 07, 2020, 03:33:49 AM »
It is odd that a well known and used cockney (which I am) term is derived from a fellow countryman of yours, P.
:laugh: Too true! :)

And you're certainly not a 'used cockney'!!

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #428 on: April 07, 2020, 11:13:05 PM »
Thought I would make Bulgaria next port of call wandering around the Soviet Bloc. Nice beaches and good vinyl pressing plants too which go under the name Balkanton.



The liner notes contain a most ridiculous statement "There is very much in common between the early preludes and Shostakovich's last completed composition ". In my opinion the transcription by Strahov of the Preludes for piano to viola and piano devalues the pieces and comparing them to the viola sonata is like comparing blancmange with marmite.

Listening to the Adagio finale of the sonata is slightly uncomfortable as if eavesdropping on a composer's thoughts at the realisation of a lifetime's work is about to end. Both the recording and performance are excellent. Again it is chamber and instrumental where East European engineers excel.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #429 on: April 08, 2020, 06:25:55 AM »
Thought I would make Bulgaria next port of call wandering around the Soviet Bloc. Nice beaches and good vinyl pressing plants too which go under the name Balkanton.



The liner notes contain a most ridiculous statement "There is very much in common between the early preludes and Shostakovich's last completed composition ". In my opinion the transcription by Strahov of the Preludes for piano to viola and piano devalues the pieces and comparing them to the viola sonata is like comparing blancmange with marmite.

Listening to the Adagio finale of the sonata is slightly uncomfortable as if eavesdropping on a composer's thoughts at the realisation of a lifetime's work is about to end. Both the recording and performance are excellent. Again it is chamber and instrumental where East European engineers excel.
I don't think that I've run across any of their records before Irons, but will now keep an eye out for sure!

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PD

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #430 on: April 11, 2020, 05:54:51 AM »
Irons and/or anyone else here:

Is anyone familiar with Lillian Fuchs' (the violist) recordings?  I had mentioned here in the current listening thread and didn't get any replies.  Any recs would be appreciated!   :)

PD

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #431 on: April 12, 2020, 12:34:37 AM »
Irons and/or anyone else here:

Is anyone familiar with Lillian Fuchs' (the violist) recordings?  I had mentioned here in the current listening thread and didn't get any replies.  Any recs would be appreciated!   :)

PD

Wish I could help, P. Looking her up obviously an important artist. It seems most of her recordings were on American Decca which has no connection with UK Decca. On Discogs apparently the only issue in Europe is a DG Mozart, there must be others. The name does ring a bell but I think that may be her brother. Lets hope another forum member can come up with something worthwhile.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #432 on: April 12, 2020, 02:12:32 AM »
Wish I could help, P. Looking her up obviously an important artist. It seems most of her recordings were on American Decca which has no connection with UK Decca. On Discogs apparently the only issue in Europe is a DG Mozart, there must be others. The name does ring a bell but I think that may be her brother. Lets hope another forum member can come up with something worthwhile.
Thanks Irons,  I'll keep an eye out for her records in my neck of the woods.

PD

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #433 on: April 12, 2020, 03:55:54 AM »
Thanks Irons,  I'll keep an eye out for her records in my neck of the woods.

PD

I knew the name rung a bell. I have Joseph Fuchs playing the Hindemith concerto with Mozart 3 on WRC from Everest.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #434 on: April 12, 2020, 04:17:22 AM »
I knew the name rung a bell. I have Joseph Fuchs playing the Hindemith concerto with Mozart 3 on WRC from Everest.
Ah, I knew that you must have something from that musical family in those copious record towers of yours!   :D 8)

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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #435 on: April 14, 2020, 06:31:56 AM »
Roy Harris: 3rd Symphony on Classics and Vinyl.

https://youtu.be/AS3qIrHkW9Y
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« Reply #436 on: April 14, 2020, 08:30:40 AM »
Still the best performance of one of the finest symphonies I know, the epic Symphony No. 1 (1940) by Eugene Goossens, a recording that never made it to cd:
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #437 on: April 14, 2020, 08:31:58 PM »
Of some relevance, Joseph Fuchs was a great and largely unknown (in this era) violinist. If you can find him playing the R. Strauss violin sonata with Arthur Balsam (Decca DL 9836), it is a stupendous performance. I also have Joseph and Lilian playing the Mozart Duos (Decca 8523) on another LP that was selling for a ton of money years ago, but was on eBay for a buck or something (these prices vary WILDLY) recently. I bought mine for very little. Will have to listen to that one again.
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #438 on: April 14, 2020, 10:44:33 PM »
Still the best performance of one of the finest symphonies I know, the epic Symphony No. 1 (1940) by Eugene Goossens, a recording that never made it to cd:


Never made it on my shelves either! Two attempts both poor copies. One day........
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Re: Thirty three and a third.
« Reply #439 on: April 15, 2020, 01:24:47 AM »
Of some relevance, Joseph Fuchs was a great and largely unknown (in this era) violinist. If you can find him playing the R. Strauss violin sonata with Arthur Balsam (Decca DL 9836), it is a stupendous performance. I also have Joseph and Lilian playing the Mozart Duos (Decca 8523) on another LP that was selling for a ton of money years ago, but was on eBay for a buck or something (these prices vary WILDLY) recently. I bought mine for very little. Will have to listen to that one again.
Thanks!  I'll make note of them.   :)

PD