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Offline vandermolen

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Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« on: February 21, 2019, 04:49:20 AM »
Greetings all.
I wonder if any of the musically literate here (unlike myself) have any insight into what the sheet music is in this Picasso painting. One of my History of Art teaching colleagues has asked me about it as she is teaching the painting. Is it a random piece of guitar music that Picasso came across in 1912 for example? Is it even for guitar?
The painting/collage is entitled 'Guitar, Sheet Music and Glass' (1912)
Many thanks
Jeffrey

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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2019, 05:09:06 AM »
The tidbits of french text (...-dant qu'êtes bel- ) on the sheet seems to be taken from the last line of a poem by Ronsard.

http://www.lieder.net/get_text.html?TextId=90080
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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2019, 05:15:20 AM »
Quote from: Papy Oli on February 21, 2019, 05:09:06 AM
The tidbits of french text (...-dant qu'êtes bel- ) on the sheet seems to be taken from the last line of a poem by Ronsard.

http://www.lieder.net/get_text.html?TextId=90080

Thanks very much Olivier - that's very helpful. I wonder if you or anyone else here actually recognise the music.
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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2019, 05:25:40 AM »
there's one lieder version on youtube as per the Leguerney name mentioned in the musical settings :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZiau2alUFo

edit: no idea if this matches the sheet music itself though  0:)
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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 06:05:05 AM »
The poem is by Ronsard (kudos to Papy Olí), but the music is not by any of the composers listed in lieder.net, but rather by chansonnier Marcel Legay (1851-1915). The song is titled Sonnet, and it’s from 1892.

New York’s MOMA solves the mystery (even if the painting is in the permanent collection of the McNay Art Museum in San Antonio, TX). You can actually listen to some seconds of the chanson on the audio clip analysing  the painting in this link: https://www.moma.org/multimedia/audio/252/2474

More information (in French) here: http://www.marcel-legay.com/marcel-pablo-pierre-les-autres/
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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 06:29:16 AM »
Ritter and Olivier
THANK YOU VERY MUCH
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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2019, 07:20:27 AM »
My pleasure...it was great fun trying to solve the mystery (but it was Papi Oli who made the decisive contribution).

Thinking of buying that painting, vandermolen?  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2019, 09:40:17 AM »
Quote from: ritter on February 21, 2019, 07:20:27 AM
My pleasure...it was great fun trying to solve the mystery (but it was Papi Oli who made the decisive contribution).

Thinking of buying that painting, vandermolen?  ;)
Again, my grateful thanks to you both.

Believe it or not I taught a student whose family owned a Picasso. She did very well and got into Cambridge. I was hoping that they'd give me the Picasso as a thank you present but I got a (very nice) book on the History of Art instead.
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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2019, 06:20:42 AM »
Olivier and ritter.

My work colleague was very grateful for your help with this.

All best

Jeffrey
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Re: Sheet Music in Picasso painting
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2019, 06:25:43 AM »
À votre service, Monsieur.  :)
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