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Offline Florestan

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Re: Quiz.
« Reply #840 on: March 13, 2019, 08:15:33 AM »
One of those rare cases in which the hint is even more obscure than the question.  :D
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« Reply #841 on: March 13, 2019, 08:19:19 AM »
Second hint, then:

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« Reply #842 on: March 13, 2019, 08:23:47 AM »
Love of the Three Limes?  ;D
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« Reply #843 on: March 13, 2019, 08:24:19 AM »
Love of the Three Limes?  ;D

 ;D

e: don't get me wrong, because I love such exchanges and the insights they ultimately lead to. It's all good.  8)
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« Reply #844 on: March 13, 2019, 08:27:14 AM »
Third hint:

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« Reply #845 on: March 13, 2019, 08:28:58 AM »
Third hint:



In Romanian urban folklore mauve is associated with harlots.  :D
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« Reply #846 on: March 13, 2019, 08:32:48 AM »
And in Rome, with emperors... I thought you guys were the most direct descendants of ancient Rome  ;D

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« Reply #847 on: March 13, 2019, 08:35:23 AM »
Limes, Roman emperors and red roses. Must be a lousy libretto.  :D
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Re: Quiz.
« Reply #848 on: March 13, 2019, 08:36:08 AM »
I don't see the significance of the limes but Goethe wrote a sequel to The Magic Flute that was set (or intended to be set) by Paul Wranitzky.

Beethoven wrote incidental music to Goethe's Egmont and also the lesser known setting of Calm Sea and Prosperous Voyage

Edit: The hints were added while I was typing and so I am probably wrong.

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« Reply #849 on: March 13, 2019, 08:37:44 AM »
Limes, Roman emperors and red roses. Must be a lousy libretto.  :D
Not limes, but only one. Not emperors, but what they wore. Not necessarily red, the rose.
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« Reply #850 on: March 13, 2019, 08:43:36 AM »
Fifth hint:


You need to speak some Spanish to understand this one...
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« Reply #851 on: March 13, 2019, 08:50:51 AM »
There was a lime in acient Rome
Which wore purple clothes at home.
It also had a nose
In the form of a rose,
And a cauldron made of chrome.


Am I close?  ;D

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Re: Quiz.
« Reply #852 on: March 13, 2019, 09:00:24 AM »
There was a lime in acient Rome
Which wore purple clothes at home.
It also had a nose
In the form of a rose,
And a cauldron made of chrome.


Am I close?  ;D
That's by Wordsworth, isn't it?   ;D Be it as it may, I'm afraid you're not close at all...

Sixth clue (I'm running out of clues here):


Again, Spanish required (Andrei, you can manage this!), and this clue goes in tandem with the previous one...
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Re: Quiz.
« Reply #853 on: March 13, 2019, 09:01:13 AM »
Wikipedia -

Celos aun del aire matan ("Jealousy, even groundless, still kills") is a 1660 opera in three acts - originally performed over three days - by Juan Hidalgo de Polanco to a libretto by Pedro Calderón de la Barca.[1][2]

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« Reply #854 on: March 13, 2019, 09:04:14 AM »
Okay, based on your last hint (caldera)

Celos aun del aire matan ("Jealousy, even groundless, still kills") is a 1660 opera in three acts - originally performed over three days - by Juan Hidalgo de Polanco to a libretto by Pedro Calderón de la Barca.[1][2]

Manuel de Falla wrote incidental music for Calderon's El gran teatro del mundo.

If these are indeed the answers, what on earth have the first three hints got to do with them?  ???

EDIT: Biffo beat me to it.

"Visând, întrezărim prin doruri –
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și niciodată nu vor fi."

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« Reply #855 on: March 13, 2019, 09:09:19 AM »
Almost there...it is Calderón, but the opera is another one, which I insist holds a singular position in the history of music.

Back to hint 2, which has relation to that "singular position"...



...and hints 3 and 4 (which relate to the opera as such):

 
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« Reply #856 on: March 13, 2019, 09:28:07 AM »
La Purpura de la Rosa? First opera written in the 'new world'?

And composed by Tomas de Torrejon y Velasco...
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« Reply #857 on: March 13, 2019, 09:36:09 AM »
La Purpura de la Rosa? First opera written in the 'new world'?
That's it! La púrpura de la rosa, by Tomás Torrejón y Velasco is the first (or, at least, the first surviving) opera written and performed in America. The libretto by Calderón had originally been intended for Juan de Hidalgo.

The work was first given in Lima on 19 October 1701. It's been recorded twice AFAIK, conducted by René Clemencic and Gabriel Garrido. I saw it fully staged, under Garrido, in the Teatro de la Zarzuela here in Madrid in the late 90s.

mc ukrneal turns (or Biffo's, who got very close)...  :)

EDIT: There's actually four recordings of the work...
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Re: Quiz.
« Reply #858 on: March 13, 2019, 09:39:57 AM »
I can't do one now, so Biffo you are up!
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Re: Quiz.
« Reply #859 on: March 13, 2019, 09:54:55 AM »
I can't do one now, so Biffo you are up!

I can't do one until tomorrow  (18:00 here) so anyone can feel free to have a go.