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« Reply #580 on: March 04, 2019, 04:54:54 PM »
No you are right that our dating of Josquin des Prez was incorrect and we now place him about a decade later than had been thought (because of the mix up with the other Josquin).  The subject of my question, a composer who we assumed had been influenced by Josquin, we now think it was actually the other way around.
Ah.
Hmmm.
I don’t know the dating changes etc, but from the clue it needs to be a heavy hitter from around Josquin's demise. I only know a few of those.
Gombert? He's my first thought. Or Pierre de la rue?

Other guesses: Isaac? Brumel?

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« Reply #581 on: March 04, 2019, 04:57:43 PM »
Jean Mouton?  Loyset Compere?

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« Reply #582 on: March 04, 2019, 05:12:38 PM »
You are half right.   ;)

If it's one of those two, I would go for Compere, as being not as well known and better fitting the description "older contemporary" of JdP.

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« Reply #583 on: March 04, 2019, 05:23:22 PM »
Okay, this one should be easy.

I am a moderately well known composer, but if you mention my name to most people they would associate it with  smiling milk maids, schoolboys in lederhosen, and similar figures.

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« Reply #584 on: March 04, 2019, 06:14:38 PM »
Okay, this one should be easy.

I am a moderately well known composer, but if you mention my name to most people they would associate it with  smiling milk maids, schoolboys in lederhosen, and similar figures.
Goldmark.

Added: Kalman.
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« Reply #585 on: March 04, 2019, 07:22:02 PM »
Goldmark.

Added: Kalman.

Not even close.
Okay.  Goldmark was 7 when the mystery composer died. Goldmark and Kalman were koniglich, the mystery composer was kaiserlich.
And the last word of my original question is itself a clue.

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« Reply #586 on: March 04, 2019, 07:37:53 PM »
Not even close.
Okay.  Goldmark was 7 when the mystery composer died. Goldmark and Kalman were koniglich, the mystery composer was kaiserlich.
And the last word of my original question is itself a clue.
Ha!
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« Reply #587 on: March 04, 2019, 07:46:43 PM »

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« Reply #588 on: March 04, 2019, 08:14:29 PM »
Moderate on the difficulty scale.

I was a professor of music. My students include two famous conductors, both famous for their conducting and also well known for their sexual exploits, one scandalously so. I wrote a lot of music, including seven symphonies but am more well known for choral music. I too studied in  Leipzig, like so many GMG quizzes did, and as an undergraduate at a famous university I was 65 out of 66 in my class. I was not born in England but spent most of my career there.  I am an Anglican.

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« Reply #589 on: March 04, 2019, 10:34:25 PM »
Moderate on the difficulty scale.

I was a professor of music. My students include two famous conductors, both famous for their conducting and also well known for their sexual exploits, one scandalously so. I wrote a lot of music, including seven symphonies but am more well known for choral music. I too studied in  Leipzig, like so many GMG quizzes did, and as an undergraduate at a famous university I was 65 out of 66 in my class. I was not born in England but spent most of my career there.  I am an Anglican.
At first sight: Stanford?
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« Reply #590 on: March 05, 2019, 01:51:02 AM »
Is the Rorem you are thinking of part of this?
https://songofamerica.net/song/five-poems-of-walt-whitman/#

He's not one of the answers to this question.  Of the remaining two, one is from the  19th century British Isles and the other is 20th century American.

Now that I am back at home I can answer your question. The Rorem piece I was thinking of was An incident from War Scenes. It is on the album Songs of War from Simon Keenlyside and Malcolm Martineau.

As an aside, Reconciliation from the  work in your link was also set by Vaughan Williams in Dona nobis pacem. I will have to see if I can find the Five poems etc on Spotify.
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« Reply #591 on: March 05, 2019, 07:41:54 AM »
At first sight: Stanford?
Damn you guys are good. Charles Villiers Stanford.
Conductors: Stokowski (had an affair with Garbo), Goosens (adultery scandal)

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« Reply #592 on: March 05, 2019, 08:00:20 AM »
Damn you guys are good. Charles Villiers Stanford.
Conductors: Stokowski (had an affair with Garbo), Goosens (adultery scandal)
Many thanks; knew about Goossens and met Stanford's antecedents when in Dublin, a couple of years ago; have his seven symphonies of course (he's the teacher of RVW and Holst).  ;)

OK. This composer taught a young composer who was named after the first composer's country of origin. Name both.
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« Reply #593 on: March 05, 2019, 08:12:24 AM »
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OK. This composer taught a young composer who was named after the first composer's country of origin. Name both.
Composer Vincenzo Ferroni (1858 -1934 ) was the teacher of composer Italo Montrmezzi at the Milan Conservatory. ..

But something tells me these aren't  the blokes you're looking for. .. ;)
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« Reply #594 on: March 05, 2019, 08:12:56 AM »
Many thanks; new about Goossens, and met Stanford's antecedents when in Dublin, a couple of years ago; have his seven symphonies of course (he's the teacher of RVW and Holst).  ;)

OK. This composer taught a young composer who was named after the first composer's country of origin. Name both.
Perhaps Donald Swann was born in Flanders?  ;)
Don’t give a hint yet, I am just joking.

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« Reply #595 on: March 05, 2019, 08:19:35 AM »
Composer Vincenzo Ferroni (1858 -1934 ) was the teacher of composer Italo Montrmezzi at the Milan Conservatory. ..
But something tells me these aren't  the blokes you're looking for. .. ;)
Correct #notcorrect  ;D The pupil's second name is actually identical to the teacher's country of origin.  ::)

Perhaps Donald Swann was born in Flanders?  ;)  Don’t give a hint yet, I am just joking.
:D (had to google the joke; they're no household names at this side of the pond).
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« Reply #596 on: March 05, 2019, 08:21:49 AM »
Stanford and Ireland
Struck by the sounds before the sun,
I knew the night had gone.
The morning breeze like a bugle blew
Against the drums of dawn.
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« Reply #597 on: March 05, 2019, 08:22:20 AM »
Stanford and Ireland
Knew I could count on you! Your turn.  ;D
(BTW thought it was funny that Ken B didn't recognize 'his own' composer.  8)
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« Reply #598 on: March 05, 2019, 08:29:25 AM »
This was so close to the question before that it was comparably easy.

Which composer anticipated both 4'33 and a notorious movie scene featuring Meg Ryan? Name the composer and the two pieces!
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« Reply #599 on: March 05, 2019, 08:48:58 AM »
Alphonse Allais,  Funeral March for the Obsequies of a Deaf Man?  But I have no idea of the second answer.

Must be something related to the (in)famous Meg Ryan orgasm in a restaurant.  :D
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