Bach on the harpsichord, lute-harpsichord, clavichord

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Bulldog

#280
May 11, 2009, 10:54:24 AM
Quote from: premont on May 11, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
His pedal harpsichord is probably only made up of of the pedalboard. He must have a "usual" harpsichord too (mounted upon the pedalboard) on which he can play the manual parts.

Thanks. :)

SonicMan46

#281
May 11, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
Quote from: premont on May 11, 2009, 10:46:34 AM
His pedal harpsichord is probably only made up of of the pedalboard. He must have a "usual" harpsichord too (mounted upon the pedalboard) on which he can play the manual parts.

Don's comments peaked my interest since I just ordered the Peter Watchorn WTC performances; so, did some googling just now and came up w/ a bunch of pictures, such as the one below which is described as "a magnificent pair of instruments, a German double-manual harpsichord and matching pedal harpsichord built by Keith Hill & Phillip Tyre in 1985 " - website HERE w/ more images and text - boy, looks like a tough set of instruments to play together!  :o

Bulldog

#282
May 11, 2009, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: SonicMan on May 11, 2009, 01:32:26 PM
Don's comments peaked my interest since I just ordered the Peter Watchorn WTC performances; so, did some googling just now and came up w/ a bunch of pictures, such as the one below which is described as "a magnificent pair of instruments, a German double-manual harpsichord and matching pedal harpsichord built by Keith Hill & Phillip Tyre in 1985 " - website HERE w/ more images and text - boy, looks like a tough set of instruments to play together!  :o



We can handle it.  You take the top; I'll take the bottom.  We'll make beautiful music together.

SonicMan46

#283
May 11, 2009, 06:23:37 PM
Quote from: Bulldog on May 11, 2009, 01:38:11 PM
We can handle it.  You take the top; I'll take the bottom.  We'll make beautiful music together.

Well, Don - it's a DATE!  ;D  Maybe I could 'punch out' a few Tin Pan Alley tunes?  Dave  :)

Antoine Marchand

#284
May 11, 2009, 07:29:19 PM
After a hard day in the office, it's a pleasure to think about these things.  ;D

During the weekend I found an article by the young harpsichordist Mahan Stefahani (entitled "Putting the Pedal to the WTC") with some additional details about the pedal harpsichord and the recording by Watchorn:

http://www.keyboardmag.com/article/putting-the-pedal/Oct-06/23562

Here a picture of the instrument:

Coopmv

#285
May 16, 2009, 02:24:44 PM Last Edit: May 21, 2009, 08:51:32 PM by Que
The harpsichord playing by Christiane Jaccottet in this set is just fabulous.  I have already ripped WTC, the French and the English Suites to my desktop ...     ;D

Coopmv

#286
May 21, 2009, 08:45:12 PM
Here is a WTC recording on harpsichord I really would like to have ...

FideLeo

#287
May 21, 2009, 11:24:27 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on May 21, 2009, 08:45:12 PM
Here is a WTC recording on harpsichord I really would like to have ...



Shouldn't be difficult!
Been re-re-released on two VirginX2 sets and (this incarnation) available at amazon market for a few pennies.
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Coopmv

#288
May 22, 2009, 04:18:12 AM
Quote from: traverso on May 21, 2009, 11:24:27 PM
Shouldn't be difficult!
Been re-re-released on two VirginX2 sets and (this incarnation) available at amazon market for a few pennies.

It appears to be available as a 4-CD box set as pictured ...

FideLeo

#289
May 22, 2009, 06:42:23 AM Last Edit: May 22, 2009, 06:44:04 AM by traverso
Quote from: Coopmv on May 22, 2009, 04:18:12 AM


It appears to be available as a 4-CD box set as pictured ...

Has ugly covers (I'd rather listen to than look at Mr van Asperen) in a bulky double jewel box.   But for a couple of quid only I didn't mind and it is what I have.  For a little bit more one can get the same recordings as two veritaX2, a better choice IMO.
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Coopmv

#290
May 22, 2009, 06:49:13 AM
Quote from: traverso on May 22, 2009, 06:42:23 AM
Has ugly covers (I'd rather listen to than look at Mr van Asperen) in a bulky double jewel box.   But for a couple of quid only I didn't mind and it is what I have.  For a little bit more one can get the same recordings as two veritaX2, a better choice IMO.

My buying binge at MDT will have to slow down since the Pound has gone up some 12% against the USD over the past month.  I have bought some 400 CD's from MDT since January.

FideLeo

#291
May 22, 2009, 06:54:36 AM
Quote from: Coopmv on May 22, 2009, 06:49:13 AM
I have bought some 400 CD's from MDT since January.

Well the two Verita twofers are probably available in the US.  

Edit. Yes they are.  Just checked @ Amazon.
HIP for all and all for HIP! Harpsichord for Bach, fortepiano for Beethoven and pianoforte for Brahms!

Coopmv

#292
May 22, 2009, 07:16:26 AM
Quote from: traverso on May 22, 2009, 06:54:36 AM
Well the two Verita twofers are probably available in the US.  

Edit. Yes they are.  Just checked @ Amazon.

Understood.  Every CD I have bought from MDT is also available in the US except that when it comes to small English label, MDT's sale price is just so much better than what is available here stateside.  A typical Hyperion CD is a few dollars cheaper at MDT, even based on the latest pound/dollar exchange rate.

prémont

#293
June 04, 2009, 11:28:21 PM
Quote from: Coopmv on May 22, 2009, 03:48:45 PM
 

.....the following 40-CD set which includes probably all the Bach keyboard works recorded by the late Christiane Joccottet.  Most of her oirginal recordings are now OOP.


Unfortunately not. Threre are at least three CDs more (the lute-harpsichord CD I offered exerpts from in the Bach harpsichord thread, and two more, which I do not own, and which were available only during a short period of time in the late 1980es, containing works which are no part of any collection e.g Fantasia and Fugue a-minor. Add to this her recording (for Vox) of all the Bach harpsichord concertos (for harpsichord and strings to be precise).
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Antoine Marchand

#294
August 23, 2009, 08:02:47 AM
Some time ago the opinions about Egarr's Goldberg Variations were not very favorable here. Currently, I have been considering his Book I of the WTC (Harmonia Mundi, 2 CDs). I'm especially intrigued about the tempi used by Egarr. I have believed to hear there some attractive slow tempi and certain doses of well delivered rubato. Any opinion?

BTW, does somebody know the new recording of the AoF on Naxos (by Sergio Vartolo)? Opinions?

Thanks in advance.

:)

Coopmv

#295
August 23, 2009, 08:07:48 AM
I have the following WTC sets on order ...

 

 

So the harpsichord version of these works have not been overlooked ...  ;D

Coopmv

#296
August 23, 2009, 08:12:10 AM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on August 23, 2009, 08:02:47 AM
Some time ago the opinions about Egarr's Goldberg Variations were not very favorable here. Currently, I have been considering his Book I of the WTC (Harmonia Mundi, 2 CDs). I'm especially intrigued about the tempi used by Egarr. I have believed to hear there some attractive slow tempi and certain doses of well delivered rubato. Any opinion?

BTW, does somebody know the new recording of the AoF on Naxos (by Sergio Vartolo)? Opinions?

Thanks in advance.

:)

I am sitting on the fence with regard to further acquisitons of Egarr's recordings in view of a number of not so favorable reviews of his recent recordings ...

Antoine Marchand

#297
August 23, 2009, 08:31:18 AM Last Edit: August 23, 2009, 08:34:01 AM by Antoine Marchand
Many times in the past I thought to purchase that WTC by Kirkpatrick, but I left the idea when I purchased a satisfactory version played on clavichord by Jaroslav Tuma.  But who knows if in the future...  :)

prémont

#298
August 23, 2009, 08:41:33 AM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on August 23, 2009, 08:02:47 AM
Some time ago the opinions about Egarr's Goldberg Variations were not very favorable here. Currently, I have been considering his Book I of the WTC (Harmonia Mundi, 2 CDs). I'm especially intrigued about the tempi used by Egarr. I have believed to hear there some attractive slow tempi and certain doses of well delivered rubato. Any opinion?

As I wrote earlier, I think Egarr´s WTC I is underarticulated and the agogics contrieved. The Lehmann tuning is interesting, adding to create a rather soft sound I think, but another somewhat more articulate interpretation (Watchorn) uses the same tuning.


Quote from: Antoine Marchand on August 23, 2009, 08:02:47 AM
BTW, does somebody know the new recording of the AoF on Naxos (by Sergio Vartolo)? Opinions?

Listened to it once, about a month ago. Did not impress me much. Shall relisten after another bunch of Beethoven piano sonatas / Lewis.
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Bulldog

#299
August 23, 2009, 08:48:34 AM
Quote from: Antoine Marchand on August 23, 2009, 08:02:47 AM
Some time ago the opinions about Egarr's Goldberg Variations were not very favorable here. Currently, I have been considering his Book I of the WTC (Harmonia Mundi, 2 CDs). I'm especially intrigued about the tempi used by Egarr. I have believed to hear there some attractive slow tempi and certain doses of well delivered rubato. Any opinion?

As a Bach keyboard artist, Egarr is always searching for "cantabile heaven", and I think he succeeds.  However, what suffers is Bach's dark side and sharpness of contours.

Personally, I prefer his WTC I to his Goldbergs.  Concerning slow tempi in his WTC, that's comes primarily through the faster pieces.  The best thing is his rhythmic hesitations and other rubato effects.  Overall, not a great set but quite satisfying as long as you're not looking for the music's underbelly.
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