Three favourite depictions of a storm in music.

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Roasted Swan

Quote from: Biffo on April 02, 2019, 05:32:05 AM
That really is a blast from the past. My older brother had the Grand Canyon Suite on LP and I nearly played it to death. I have it on a Naxos CD but somehow it lacks the magic of that long lost LP.

There is that Telarc recording which features "real thunder claps" and rather entertainingly explains just how difficult technically it was to "find" claps of thunder without any attendant rain.  This was when Telarc liked to include sound effects on their recordings with accompanying warnings about how it would blow your speakers.... the CD included the Cloudburst movement twice - once with sound effects, once without.....

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vandermolen

Quote from: Roasted Swan on April 02, 2019, 11:11:56 PM
There is that Telarc recording which features "real thunder claps" and rather entertainingly explains just how difficult technically it was to "find" claps of thunder without any attendant rain.  This was when Telarc liked to include sound effects on their recordings with accompanying warnings about how it would blow your speakers.... the CD included the Cloudburst movement twice - once with sound effects, once without.....

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Sounds fun!
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

pjme

A Technicolor storm :

Miklos Rozsa:
https://www.youtube.com/v/9AnjYRbEUeA

Don't forget the thunder sheet:
Dramatist John Dennis devises the thundersheet as a new method of producing theatrical thunder for his tragedy Appius and Virginia at the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane, London.

Notable orchestral works in which the musical instrument has been used include the following:

Richard Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie and the opera Die Frau ohne Schatten
Giuseppe Verdi: Otello
Richard Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen and Parsifal.
Mozart: The Magic Flute
Ignacy Jan Paderewski: Symphony in B minor "Polonia" (1903–08)
Alan Hovhaness: "Invocation to Vahakn No. 3"
Engelbert Humperdinck: Hänsel und Gretel
(source : Wiki)

https://www.youtube.com/v/wmmNOau9ASg

And a violent, expressionist storm with a political twist:

https://www.youtube.com/v/jbwDHpY5Ctk

Paying a musical tribute to the 50th anniversary of the October Revolution in 1967 was a matter of course for Paul Dessau. The news that the second Russian moon probe had landed in the "Sea of Tempests" on 24 December 1966 provided him not only with a title, but also with a "programme". ...
The work culminates in a high E, maintained by thirty violins throughout an intensive crescendo, to symbolize what Dessau described as the "luminosity of a very bright star"
(Source Brillant)




kyjo

Atterberg - Symphony no. 3, mvt. 2
Grofé - "Cloudburst" from Grand Canyon Suite
Sibelius - Tapiola (middle section)

(+Gershwin: "Hurricane" from Porgy and Bess, Bax: November Woods, etc.)
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Florestan

Quote from: Holden on April 02, 2019, 02:11:08 PM
Vivaldi - The Four Seasons, Summer, mvt. 3
Rossini - William Tell Overture, storm section

Great minds etc.  8)
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Brian

Quote from: Jo498 on April 02, 2019, 07:59:40 AM
I wasn't aware of a storm there...?
(There is a "storm" in the last of Kindertotenlieder "In diesem Wetter")
The loud, boisterous passage immediately before the military-style snare drum tapping and recapitulation was originally called a "Southern Storm" in Mahler's notes. I see from Utah Symphony program notes available online that he went back and forth over whether to describe it as a storm or a purely metaphorical battle fought between the forces of spring and summer. I think it's a pretty convincing storm!

I love the finale of Atterberg's Third Symphony, but I don't like the storm movement at all - it's just too long.

Maestro267

Quote from: pjme on April 03, 2019, 12:19:22 AM

Don't forget the thunder sheet:
Dramatist John Dennis devises the thundersheet as a new method of producing theatrical thunder for his tragedy Appius and Virginia at the Theatre Royal, Drury Lane, London.

Notable orchestral works in which the musical instrument has been used include the following:

Richard Strauss: Eine Alpensinfonie and the opera Die Frau ohne Schatten
Giuseppe Verdi: Otello
Richard Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen and Parsifal.
Mozart: The Magic Flute
Ignacy Jan Paderewski: Symphony in B minor "Polonia" (1903–08)
Alan Hovhaness: "Invocation to Vahakn No. 3"
Engelbert Humperdinck: Hänsel und Gretel
(source : Wiki)

I realize I'm going off on a tangent here, but a few other pieces that deploy the thunder sheet to great effect are Havergal Brian's Symphony No. 10 and the three works that make up James MacMillan's Triduum: The World's Ransoming, Cello Concerto and Symphony No. 1 ("Vigil").

vandermolen

Quote from: Maestro267 on April 04, 2019, 05:15:30 AM
I realize I'm going off on a tangent here, but a few other pieces that deploy the thunder sheet to great effect are Havergal Brian's Symphony No. 10 and the three works that make up James MacMillan's Triduum: The World's Ransoming, Cello Concerto and Symphony No. 1 ("Vigil").

Thanks and also a vote for HB Symphony 10.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Holden

Quote from: Florestan on April 03, 2019, 09:57:12 AM
Great minds etc.  8)
Yes. Toscanini's version of the William Tell Overture immediately came to mind.
Cheers

Holden

André

Quote from: Holden on April 06, 2019, 12:33:28 PM
Yes. Toscanini's version of the William Tell Overture immediately came to mind.

Easily the most frightening on disc, with a final gallop to end them all.

Florestan

Quote from: Holden on April 06, 2019, 12:33:28 PM
Yes. Toscanini's version of the William Tell Overture immediately came to mind.

Quote from: André on April 06, 2019, 01:40:33 PM
Easily the most frightening on disc, with a final gallop to end them all.

Which one? 1939 or 1952?
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Madiel

People have already mentioned most of the ones I could think of, except...


Thomas Linley the Younger, in his short life, did some music for The Tempest. And Arise ye spirits of the storm is a knockout.
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André

In Walter Braunfels' opera Die Vögel (The Birds), an angry Jupiter unelashes the might of the Northern and Southern winds over the flock of rebelling birds. A quite effective scene.

Hattoff

Napoleon's retreat from Moscow in Prokofiev's War and Peace. It's so vivid it hurts. You wouldn't want to be there.

knight66

Most of my favourite storms are present and correct. But I am surprised that so far no one has mentioned the Overture of Wagner's Flying Dutchman. There is also a terrific storm within the opera with the sailors stamping and making a superb din.

Mike
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vandermolen

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Quote from: Hattoff on April 08, 2019, 07:15:20 AM
Napoleon's retreat from Moscow in Prokofiev's War and Peace. It's so vivid it hurts. You wouldn't want to be there.
Of course! The evocative 'Snowstorm' when Prince Andrei arrives back home is also one that I should have remembered. Thank you.

Also, Sviridov's 'The Snowstorm' is worth inclusion.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: Roasted Swan on April 02, 2019, 11:11:56 PM
There is that Telarc recording which features "real thunder claps" and rather entertainingly explains just how difficult technically it was to "find" claps of thunder without any attendant rain.  This was when Telarc liked to include sound effects on their recordings with accompanying warnings about how it would blow your speakers.... the CD included the Cloudburst movement twice - once with sound effects, once without.....

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Yes, I remember their recording of the 1812 overture, on LP. So much boasting about the canons, and the groove had visible squiggles. Never had a phono cartridge that could track it. Every recording was like a bass drum concerto. It was years before I could take Telarc seriously.

André

Quote from: knight66 on April 08, 2019, 08:29:56 AM
Most of my favourite storms are present and correct. But I am surprised that so far no one has mentioned the Overture of Wagner's Flying Dutchman. There is also a terrific storm within the opera with the sailors stamping and making a superb din.

Mike

See reply no 9  :)

Not described as a storm as such, but the first movement of Mendelssohn's Scottish symphony whips the music into quite a lather. One of my favourite symphony movements.

Symphonic Addict

I was mentioning Nystroem's The Tempest on other threads. What an extraordinary work. You can't ask for anything more descriptive than this:

https://www.youtube.com/v/Bq-FKP-8ZV0
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vandermolen

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on April 19, 2020, 04:43:01 PM
I was mentioning Nystroem's The Tempest on other threads. What an extraordinary work. You can't ask for anything more descriptive than this:

https://www.youtube.com/v/Bq-FKP-8ZV0

This sounds terrific Cesar. I must find my CD of the work. I was listening the other day to the 'Snowstorm' from Prokofiev's opera 'War and Peace' which has been mentioned above - a wonderfully evocative section.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).