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« Reply #680 on: October 19, 2021, 06:51:49 AM »
Thanks again for these recommendations. I've been listening to the Horn Concerto, Sextet and A Sea of Dreams..., none of which I'd heard before, and indeed found much more variety than I'd anticipated. While I found the Concerto and Sextet a bit incoherent, A Sea of Dreams... kept me fascinated from start to finish. While there are obvious (and for me quite unexpected) echoes of Szymanowski, I really wouldn't have guessed the composer if I hadn't known: there's a subtlety in the scoring, material and form which I hadn't previously experienced in his later music. I look forward to exploring your other selections.
 Not in the least, as you see.

One more "later" work that I feel needs to be added to the list (one of my favourite Penderecki works, regardless of period) is his Credo - 1998

I vigourously recommend it to anyone.

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« Reply #681 on: October 19, 2021, 07:01:59 AM »
One more "later" work that I feel needs to be added to the list (one of my favourite Penderecki works, regardless of period) is his Credo - 1998

I vigourously recommend it to anyone.

Oh yes! That's a fine work, but which recording? There are several now:



I've heard the Wit and Rilling. Both are outstanding performances. I haven't heard the Kord recording but I like his conducting a lot and his recording of Gates of Jerusalem ("Symphony No. 7") is amazing.
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« Reply #682 on: October 19, 2021, 07:03:01 AM »
Oh yes! That's a fine work, but which recording? There are several now:



I've heard the Wit and Rilling. Both are outstanding performances. I haven't heard the Kord recording but I like his conducting a lot and his recording of Gates of Jerusalem ("Symphony No. 7") is amazing.

I only have the Wit recording, John.  :)

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« Reply #683 on: October 19, 2021, 07:10:15 AM »
A frightening piece, but I do love it quite a bit I must say. I wouldn't rank it ahead of St. Luke Passion, but there are some terrifying moments in Utrenja. I like the Wit performance, but can definitely recommend this one as well:



Well, I tried to order this one on eBay (my first ever bid) and I was the only bidder.  A day before the bidding was to expire, the seller retracted the item off, so I'm SOL.  >:(

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« Reply #684 on: October 19, 2021, 07:42:15 AM »
Well, I tried to order this one on eBay (my first ever bid) and I was the only bidder.  A day before the bidding was to expire, the seller retracted the item
That's a shame. For me this is possibly the best thing he ever wrote, and I think this recording is far preferable to Wit (despite the other Penderecki recordings from Wit being excellent, the ones I've heard anyway) - all the performers, especially the vocal soloists, are going for maximum intensity rather than the restrained approach in the more recent recording. Compare for example the basso profundo soloists, or the tenor solo in the second movement of part I which is jaw-dropping in Markowski's recording.

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« Reply #685 on: October 19, 2021, 07:46:02 AM »
That's a shame. For me this is possibly the best thing he ever wrote, and I think this recording is far preferable to Wit (despite the other Penderecki recordings from Wit being excellent, the ones I've heard anyway) - all the performers, especially the vocal soloists, are going for maximum intensity rather than the restrained approach in the more recent recording. Compare for example the basso profundo soloists, or the tenor solo in the second movement of part I which is jaw-dropping in Markowski's recording.

Yes, it is a shame.  Utrenja is indeed one of my favourite works.  I have the Wit and do enjoy it, but really wanted this recording.

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« Reply #686 on: October 19, 2021, 08:13:58 AM »
Well, I tried to order this one on eBay (my first ever bid) and I was the only bidder.  A day before the bidding was to expire, the seller retracted the item off, so I'm SOL.  >:(

Damn, that sucks, Ray. Have you tried acquiring it in this issue?



I'd send this one to you, but it's a part of a five-part series that I'm not about to break up. :) I also own that gold disc reissue, which is difficult to find, so I won't be parting with that one either. ;)

I see there's two of them on eBay for a fair price:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/324663970600?hash=item4b977b0b28:g:pRcAAOSwQUFgMI-s

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/203274999657?hash=item2f54225769:g:nzAAAOSwIihgGpFz
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« Reply #687 on: October 19, 2021, 08:16:55 AM »
Damn, that sucks, Ray. Have you tried acquiring it in this issue?



I'd send this one to you, but it's a part of a five-part series that I'm not about to break up. :) I also own that gold disc reissue, which is difficult to find, so I won't be parting with that one either. ;)

I'll keep looking John, thanks.  Eventually it will resurface.  :)

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« Reply #688 on: October 19, 2021, 08:44:45 AM »
I'll keep looking John, thanks.  Eventually it will resurface.  :)

Just an FYI, I edited my reply to you and included links to eBay. ;)
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