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SurprisedByBeauty




Classical CD Of The Week: Bruckner's End In Salzburg


The 2014 Salzburg Festival featured all the Bruckner Symphonies and the Ninth with Christoph von Dohnányi and the Philharmonia Orchestra was the best of the lot.

Quote from: SurprisedByBeauty on February 21, 2017, 10:21:31 PM
Because there is never enough Bruckner in our lives!


#morninglistening to glorious #Bruckner:http://amzn.to/2kzqgnS  w/@nedpho_nko on @challenge... http://ift.tt/2kJCvcM


Cato

Found also on Mahler Mania:

Quote from: Cato on February 22, 2017, 02:00:45 PM
It could be that this particular performance is what made everything attractive to your ears! 0:)

Allow me to suggest something (which I have never seen in notes to recordings nor in any other books on Mahler and Bruckner, possibly because the following is just wrong  ;)  ), but to my ears the slow movements of the symphonies of Bruckner - in a collective sense - are an influence in Mahler's Third Symphony, especially for the final movement.  I think in particular of the slow movement for Bruckner's Sixth Symphony, with its little funeral march, and of the Seventh, but possibly others  influenced Mahler as well here.


Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 22, 2017, 04:25:16 PM
Your ears are far better versed in all these symphonies, so I lend you credence gladly. Whence else had he gotten the nerve for a 25-minute Adagio? That was no casual invention.

Herbert Blomstedt on Bruckner and Mahler at c. 6:30, but the entire interview is worth your time!

"For me, Bruckner is more enigmatic than Mahler."

https://www.youtube.com/v/issTb4oM3O8&feature=share
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Karl Henning

Quote from: Cato on February 23, 2017, 04:44:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/issTb4oM3O8&feature=share

When the maestro said he was in his "Bach, Beethoven quartets period," that hit home!  Not that there's anything wrong with learning to love the focus and clarity of these, but, yes, when my ears were first exposed to Mahler (and probably to Bruckner), they were very different, and therefore inferior . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Beautiful insight about Lenny: "He was not a showman, he was a naturally theatrical personality . . . ."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 24, 2017, 08:42:40 AM
Beautiful insight about Lenny: "He was not a showman, he was a naturally theatrical personality . . . ."

Which (I think) allowed him to become that bridge for many born after WW II between so-called popular music and classical.  He came across on television as "natural" and not as a phony, or somebody trying to uphgrade the peasants. 0:)

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 24, 2017, 08:38:49 AM
When the maestro said he was in his "Bach, Beethoven quartets period," that hit home!  Not that there's anything wrong with learning to love the focus and clarity of these, but, yes, when my ears were first exposed to Mahler (and probably to Bruckner), they were very different, and therefore inferior . . . .

Ah, yes!  How many periods or phases have we all gone through!? ;)

"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

SurprisedByBeauty


Review: Eternal Youth -- Gustav Mahler Youth Orchestra At 30


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jenslaurson/2017/04/02/review-eternal-youth-gustav-mahler-youth-orchestra-at-30/#6fa07f6e5720


Blowsy Bruckner, Gerhaher Gorgeousness

QuoteThe best youth orchestras – and this may well not be a secret anymore – are among the most enjoyable orchestras you can listen to: Technically at the top of the game and motivated from ponytail to pinky; ability and willingness in ready harmony at a level and consistency that cannot be expected from all but a handful of top-notch orchestras. The only thing that can possibly derail them is music that works primarily off a arcane emotional response to life – and a conductor who lacks profundity and the natural authority that comes from musical and personal authenticity. In those cases youth orchestras are prone to have a more difficult time. Incidentally Bruckner – to move from the general to the particular – is one of those composers. And the conductor on this occasion, namely the Vienna stop of the Gustav Mahler Youth Orchestra's 30th Anniversary Easter Tour, was Daniel Harding...

TheGSMoeller


Cato

According to one source, Eugen Jochum in 1986 with the Concertgebouw:

https://www.youtube.com/v/IQM8C0fOScQ
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Cato

Comments from a Bruckner FaceBook page - along with comments from YouTube - say that this performance by Segerstam is one for the ages:

https://www.youtube.com/v/eIV0M6oL9Qo
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

North Star

Quote from: Cato on April 22, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
Comments from a Bruckner FaceBook page - along with comments from YouTube - say that this performance by Segerstam is one for the ages:
I'm not certain if it's the same performance, but the recording by him of the work that I heard some time ago is certainly that (that Youtube video appears to be deleted now).
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relm1

Quote from: Cato on April 22, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
Comments from a Bruckner FaceBook page - along with comments from YouTube - say that this performance by Segerstam is one for the ages:

https://www.youtube.com/v/eIV0M6oL9Qo

I just listened to this performance.  It is a somewhat Mahlerian interpretation with grand sweeping gestures and more questioning/philosophical.  Quite solid with much rubato but not particularly forceful in the way I think Maazel was with Berlin Phil and I think Maazel better served the drama musically with his intense approach.

Fore example (sorry that I never figured out how to embed video) check out the timpani/brass in Maazel/Berlin:
https://youtu.be/SyTpkMhLRVo?t=22

and compare to Segerstam/Sinfónica de Galicia
https://youtu.be/eIV0M6oL9Qo?t=3860

The level of intensity in Maazel is exhilarating but with Segerstam, it is more questioning. 


Cato

"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Cato

I found this today on the Bruckner Society website: a gratis download of a work by Johann David from the 1930's:

QuoteJohann Nepomuk David is regarded, next to Max Reger, as one of the foremost exponents of contrapuntal tradition in the 20th century. The Introitus, Choral and Fugue for Organ and Nine Wind Instruments (two trumpets, four horns and three trombones) on a Theme by Anton Bruckner dates from 1939. The theme was jotted down by Bruckner while he was giving an organ recital in 1884. This highly sophisticated composition, remarkable for its thematic variety and intricate web of permutations and interconnections, is yet full of resplendent harmonies and hence a fitting tribute to Anton Bruckner.



https://www.abruckner.com/downloads/downloadofthemonth/April17/
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Cato on April 26, 2017, 01:39:34 PM
I found this today on the Bruckner Society website: a gratis download of a work by Johann David from the 1930's:



https://www.abruckner.com/downloads/downloadofthemonth/April17/

Thanks for the link.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Cato

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 26, 2017, 01:53:34 PM
Thanks for the link.

Sarge

Sure no problem!  It is an interesting website, which offers access to scholarly journals from the Bruckner Society of America and many other things.

One curiosity: another download, this one a performance of an orchestration exercise from one of Bruckner's notebooks:].  It is Bruckner's orchestration of the first movement of Beethoven's Opus 13 Piano Sonata #8.

https://www.abruckner.com/discography/otherorchestracomp/orchestration_lvb/
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Cato on April 26, 2017, 02:22:35 PM
One curiosity: another download, this one a performance of an orchestration exercise from one of Bruckner's notebooks:].  It is Bruckner's orchestration of the first movement of Beethoven's Opus 13 Piano Sonata #8.

https://www.abruckner.com/discography/otherorchestracomp/orchestration_lvb/

Very interested in hearing this (the Pathétique is my favorite Ludwig van Sonata). I clicked on the link, and everything on that page, but could not find a download link. What's the secret?

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"


Cato

Quote from: Cato on April 26, 2017, 02:22:35 PM
Sure no problem!  It is an interesting website, which offers access to scholarly journals from the Bruckner Society of America and many other things.

One curiosity: another download, this one a performance of an orchestration exercise from one of Bruckner's notebooks:].  It is Bruckner's orchestration of the first movement of Beethoven's Opus 13 Piano Sonata #8.

https://www.abruckner.com/discography/otherorchestracomp/orchestration_lvb/

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 26, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
Very interested in hearing this (the Pathétique is my favorite Ludwig van Sonata). I clicked on the link, and everything on that page, but could not find a download link. What's the secret?

Sarge

It seems to be a broken link! :'(  I will see if I can contact Mr. Berky, who is in charge of the website.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Florestan

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on April 26, 2017, 03:05:00 PM
the Pathétique is my favorite Ludwig van Sonata

That makes two of us.
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