Bruckner's Abbey

[Sergeant Rock]

Thanks for this.  When I ordered the Karajan set I supplemented it with an EMI recording of the fourth.

Well, I hope you like it as much as I do. No certainty of that though. It's always a gamble listening to me 

Sarge

[mc ukrneal]

It's always a gamble listening to me 

Sarge

Not really. You're like a rock!

[Sergeant Rock]

You're like a rock!

Molecularly dense, unyielding, and defeated by paper?

Sarge

[mc ukrneal]

Molecularly dense, unyielding, and defeated by paper?

Sarge

No. Molten, lustrous, and the foundation upon which everything is built. But don't let it go to your head...

[Cato]

Okay, so at 5:00 A.M. I am suddenly awake and my brain is playing the middle part of the last movement of Bruckner's Fifth Symphony.

I had two questions: did my brain start playing it at c. 4:10 A.M.?   

And: was this a portent of something good?

Question 1 remains an eternal mystery!   0:)   Question 2 I answered affirmatively, since at least I was not aurally e.g. in the middle of the Sixth Symphony's little funeral march, or the last movement of the Ninth!   

And really, the Fifth is a slam-bang work!   

[Brahmsian]

I was wondering if anyone had a detailed/thorough analysis or synopsis of what is going on in the first 2 movements of Bruckner's 7th Symphony?  Or if anyone has written one themselves too.

I would love to read one, thank you!   

[Sergeant Rock]

I was wondering if anyone had a detailed/thorough analysis or synopsis of what is going on in the first 2 movements of Bruckner's 7th Symphony?  Or if anyone has written one themselves too.

I would love to read one, thank you!   

The only analysis of the Seventh I see online is at JSTOR  but you have to have affiliation to access it. Frustrating.

I suggest you borrow Robert Simpson's The Essence of Bruckner from the library. Actually, if you are a Brucknerian, you should own a copy.

Sarge

[Brahmsian]

The only analysis of the Seventh I see online is at JSTOR  but you have to have affiliation to access it. Frustrating.

I suggest you borrow Robert Simpson's The Essence of Bruckner from the library. Actually, if you are a Brucknerian, you should own a copy.

Sarge

Thanks Sarge!    Actually, I did check out Robert Simpon's book from the library about 3 years ago.  Didn't get a chance to read it all, but it was interesting.  I should check it out again, and I might be able to get a better understanding of it as I've learned more about technical music analysis over the last few years. 

Sarge - out of curiosity - is this Robert Simpson, author - the same as person as the composer?

[jlaurson]

Sarge - out of curiosity - is this Robert Simpson, author - the same as person as the composer?

Yes. Cheeky people will say that you can hear it in the music.

[Lethevich]

I've lost count of how many people I've read expressing disappointment upon investigating Simpson's symphonies after seeing them compared in style to Bruckner and Nielsen - outside of specialist analysis I'm beginning to think that the comparison is unhelpful :\

Edit: grammmeer etcetc

[Cato]

I was wondering if anyone had a detailed/thorough analysis or synopsis of what is going on in the first 2 movements of Bruckner's 7th Symphony?  Or if anyone has written one themselves too.

I would love to read one, thank you!   

It would take weeks, if not months, for such an undertaking!

Do you have a copy of the (Nowak) score?  If you can read music, perhaps just listening to the work with score may open your ears and eyes as to "what is going on."

[MishaK]

Listening to Kurt Eichhorn's recording of the fifth with the BRSO live from St. Florian which I discovered on Spotify and finding myself absolutely mesmerized. Had never heard of this guy before. Anyone familiar with his work? Berky says there are some more Bruckner recordings with him conducting the Bruckner Orchestra Linz but on labels I've never heard of. Are those legit and any good?

[jlaurson]

Listening to Kurt Eichhorn's recording of the fifth with the BRSO live from St. Florian which I discovered on Spotify and finding myself absolutely mesmerized. Had never heard of this guy before. Anyone familiar with his work? Berky says there are some more Bruckner recordings with him conducting the Bruckner Orchestra Linz but on labels I've never heard of. Are those legit and any good?

Totally legit! He wasn't able to complete the cycle, due to death... but those recordings have a considerable and very sane following that consider him something of a G.Wand-like figure, when it comes to Bruckner. His fame never projected far beyond Bavaria/Austria, though.

They were on Camerata... and while we got some domestically at TOWER, others were imported from Japan.

The cover of the complete set (Sieghart, also very good, completes it, with a bit from Guschlbauer) is ugly and reminds me of some semi-pirate labels, but it's still Camerata.

[MishaK]

Thanks, Jens. I'm not about to invest in another Bruckner cycle, though, since I have Skro on order and still need to get Inbal one of these days. I might track down that fifth on its own. Speaking of the Bruckner Orchester Linz, how is Dennis Russell Davies' cycle?

[jlaurson]

Thanks, Jens. I'm not about to invest in another Bruckner cycle, though, since I have Skro on order and still need to get Inbal one of these days. I might track down that fifth on its own. Speaking of the Bruckner Orchester Linz, how is Dennis Russell Davies' cycle?

I didn't know Davies' had a cycle... only a 4th.
Skro is very good, too... A terrific first cycle (if it is your first) and reference to have. You'll enjoy that, I should think.
Inbal, well... if you want to cover the early editons.
Eichhorn, meanwhile, has two Fifths (I think) -- one on Capriccio with the BRSO; the other would be with Linz.

[Sergeant Rock]

I didn't know Davies' had a cycle... only a 4th.

I have Davies in 2 and 3 conducting the Linz.

Edit: Just checked at Amazon. His cycle is complete...the individual discs really cheap.

Sarge

[jlaurson]

I have Davies in 2 and 3 conducting the Linz.

Edit: Just checked at Amazon. His cycle is complete...the individual discs really cheap.

Sarge

So it is! Did you check Amazon.de? I found them there, but not on Amazon.com. And I don't remember the others coming out in the US edition of Arte Nova. Perhaps that was after Tower died. :-)

[MishaK]

Skro is very good, too... A terrific first cycle (if it is your first) and reference to have. You'll enjoy that, I should think.
Inbal, well... if you want to cover the early editons.

Yes, I know. I've been listening to Skro incessantly on Spotify, which is why I decided I must have his cycle. It's brilliant. And, no it's not my first cycle. I have several. And, yes, I want the early versions. And, again, listening on Spotify I found Inbal much more convincing than Bosch or Young.

[jlaurson]

Yes, I know. I've been listening to Skro incessantly on Spotify, which is why I decided I must have his cycle. It's brilliant. And, no it's not my first cycle. I have several. And, yes, I want the early versions. And, again, listening on Spotify I found Inbal much more convincing than Bosch or Young.

Oh, abso-f'in-lutely, that! 

[Sergeant Rock]

So it is! Did you check Amazon.de?

Yes.