Started by vandermolen, June 15, 2019, 04:21:09 AM
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Quote from: JBS on July 01, 2019, 04:09:10 PMBoris is at least a little bit better than Donald https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7199469/Johnson-repeats-criticism-Putin-s-claim-liberalism-obsolete.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490
Quote from: Roasted Swan on July 04, 2019, 03:45:53 AMI think Johnson has the potential to be - for the UK at least - every bit as dangerous as Trump. He is a more sophisticated political operator but equally egostistical and only concerned with his own advancement. What amazes me is how little kick back any politician gets for making the most absurd comments or promises. Both candidates are making statements about spending (after years of nominal austerity) and how they WILL leave the EU on October 31st that have no basis in financial probity or legal/political realityPersonally I don't think private lives should necessarily impact on public roles - but if someone in their private life is shown to have no regard for others through repeated statements or actions it has to impact on the suitability of them taking a wider role - this Max Hastings article about Johnson is deeply disturbing. Al the more so for Hastings being right wing - no moaning liberal with an agenda he!www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/10/boris-johnson-unfit-to-be-prime-ministerI also do not understand the collective hypocrisy of a Society which in some fields will cast out a 'celebrity' for perceived inappropriate behaviour and for others dismiss it as "just Donald..." or somesuch. I do not support the predatory behaviour of say a Kevin Spacey but why is his career in tatters and Trump gets elected President......?
Quote from: André on July 24, 2019, 10:23:50 AMWe'll see how long it takes for him to be called BoJo the Clown...
Quote from: Marc on July 24, 2019, 03:20:24 PMMany sensible people already do that for years.
Quote from: vandermolen on July 04, 2019, 04:25:33 AMIt does seem absurd that something like 0.6% of the UK population are voting in our next Prime Minister. i just spoke to a Dutch friend on the phone and am inclined to agree with his comment:'What a bloody stupid country you live in!'I've always admired The directness of the Dutch.
Quote from: Ken B on July 24, 2019, 07:12:36 PMI may quote you then, Winston Churchill becoming prime minister proves what a stupid country Britain was.
Quote from: Que on July 24, 2019, 10:24:17 PMJohnson just got rid of half the cabinet, alienating himself of the more moderate Conservatives that supported his rival Jeremy Hunt. And he got important people ft om the Vote Leave campaign, like Dominic Cummings, into his close circle.His strategy seems to be:1. pressure the EU into an adjusted deal;2. if that fails: force through a no deal;3. if that is blocked by parliament: a direct appeal to the (Conservative) electorate through general elections, to regain a parliamentary majority.As a born populist, he might pull this off.... Q
Quote from: vandermolen on July 24, 2019, 09:55:09 PMI'd be interested to know why you think that.
Quote from: Que on July 24, 2019, 10:24:17 PMJohnson just got rid of half the cabinet, alienating himself of the more moderate Conservatives that supported his rival Jeremy Hunt.
Quote from: Ken B on July 25, 2019, 05:13:32 AMSame constitutional process wasn't it? Old PM resigns, new one chosen by tiny fraction of a per cent of the populace.
Quote from: vandermolen on July 25, 2019, 06:08:22 AMOh, I see what you mean. I don't think that anyone voted for Churchill in 1940. He was just appointed by Chamberlain when Halifax refused to take the job.
Quote from: Ken B on July 25, 2019, 06:16:10 AMHe commanded a majority of the house, just as has every single PM since Walpole, in every parliamentary democracy in the world. Same constitutional process.
Quote from: Irons on July 26, 2019, 06:33:08 AMThe EU wanted to make the UK suffer during the Brexit negotiations for obvious reasons. If the UK came out smelling of roses then there is a distinct prospect that either or both of Italy and Spain would follow. Their hard line approach has seen off May which until now perhaps the EU views as a victory. But it has opened a can of worms, if you keep on kicking sooner or later the one being kicked will turn and this is where Johnson comes in. I voted remain but like most Brits I have had enough. I want out, deal or no deal.Frankly I couldn't care less what Johnson gets up to in his private life. It is that, private.
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