And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

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This just crossed my transom
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/02/10/bernie-sanders-radical-past-donald-trump-attack-fodder-column/4706779002/

Bernie Schools Simpleton Chuck Todd: "I Do Not Like Military Coups"

https://www.youtube.com/v/5dHxWJF1MOU

[JBS]

Bernie Schools Simpleton Chuck Todd: "I Do Not Like Military Coups"

https://www.youtube.com/v/5dHxWJF1MOU

Morales was a Chavez wannabe in a country that is much poorer than Venezuela who was attempting to hold on to power via openly corrupt methods. Bernie could not bring himself to acknowledge that because he seems to like leftist authoritarianism even now.

[Karl Henning]

My Mom is on medicare and she has no complaints with it. Canada has such a system which provides high quality care at lower cost than the U.S. Your argument is that the U.S. is incapable of doing what Canada and most developed countries have done?

I don't believe the US to be incapable, strictly speaking. But I am doubtful that there are enough harmonious adults in the room capable of designing an efficient system and putting it into effect. I certainly do not have the faith that "Bernie has GOT this."

[Karl Henning]

Bernie Schools Simpleton Chuck Todd: "I Do Not Like Military Coups"

You fail to realize that this whole "schooling" twaddle is one of Sanders' liabilities.

[JBS]

You fail to realize that this whole "schooling" twaddle is one of Sanders' liabilities.

In fairness to Bernie, the claim that he was schooling anyone is, like the idea Chuck Todd is a simpleton, more a product of the Youtuber's imagination than anything else.

[Karl Henning]

In fairness to Bernie, the claim that he was schooling anyone is, like the idea Chuck Todd is a simpleton, more a product of the Youtuber's imagination than anything else.

Good, though I doubt that Poju distinguishes between his favored YouBoob and reality...

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3 % reporting in New Hampshire:

Sanders 32.4 %
Buttigieg 20.4 %
Klobuchar 17.7 %
Warren 11.1 %
Biden 7.8 %
Steyer 3.6 %
Yang 2.8 %
Gabbard 2.7 %

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Andrew Yang dropping out!

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25 % reporting in New Hampshire:

Sanders 28.19 %
Buttigieg 22.43 %
Klobuchar 19.20 %
Warren 10.49 %
Biden 8.30 %
Steyer 3.33 %
Gabbard 3.02 %

[JBS]

25 % reporting in New Hampshire:

Sanders 28.19 %
Buttigieg 22.43 %
Klobuchar 19.20 %
Warren 10.49 %
Biden 8.30 %
Steyer 3.33 %
Gabbard 3.02 %

The Iowa pattern is holding
--7 out of 10 voters voted for someone who is not Bernie
-- all the progressive candidates combined (Sanders, Warren, Steyer, and Gabbard) are getting less than half the votes.

Perhaps the Iowa thing was not so rigged as some think.

[André]

What time is it in Finland? 3 am ?   

[greg]

Andrew Yang dropping out!

I wonder what happened here. I thought before he was gaining momentum.

[Madiel]

The Iowa pattern is holding
--7 out of 10 voters voted for someone who is not Bernie
-- all the progressive candidates combined (Sanders, Warren, Steyer, and Gabbard) are getting less than half the votes.

Perhaps the Iowa thing was not so rigged as some think.

On one level the whole progressive vs not thing within the Democrats does my head in, but it does sometimes feel as if there are 2 separate races going on. First we have to figure out who the progressive Democrat candidate is (leaning Bernie) and who the more centrist Democrat candidate is (a bit less clear now), and then those 2 can face off to decide who challenges Trump.

It's all very Sibelius. Different tempi for different parts of the orchestra...

[Mirror Image]

What time is it in Finland? 3 am ?   

Well, when you're a Bernie supporter, there isn't such thing as bedtime. It's Bernie time, all the time!    

[71 dB]

The Iowa pattern is holding
--7 out of 10 voters voted for someone who is not Bernie
-- all the progressive candidates combined (Sanders, Warren, Steyer, and Gabbard) are getting less than half the votes.

Perhaps the Iowa thing was not so rigged as some think.

Yeah and even less voted for someone else since Bernie won. You think all those won didn't vote for Bernie will vote for Trump if it's Trump vs Bernie? Polls indicate otherwise. Also, if you voted for say Warren it doesn't mean you hate Bernie. It means you preferred Warren. Bernie is the second or third choice for many. The reason why "progressive candidates" got less than half of votes is imo because of the way corporate media treads them.

Rigged or not, Iowa results contain tons of errors, most of them (somehow) benefitting Buttigieg on the expense of Bernie and Klobuchar got robbed the most getting only one pledged delegate. I don't like her, but I am not a hack so I bring it up she got robbed in Iowa while Buttigieg and Bernie got too many delegates (both should have got 11). The fact that Buttigieg got one more than Bernie despite of Bernie winning both first and second round popular vote and getting only 2 S.D.E.s less is plain ridiculous.

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Bernie Sanders Won the New Hampshire Primary; Ignore the Mainstream Media Spin

https://www.youtube.com/v/vDbbuGIy1yg

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For the first time in this race Bernie has taken the lead in the average of national polls!

[Karl Henning]

On one level the whole progressive vs not thing within the Democrats does my head in, but it does sometimes feel as if there are 2 separate races going on. First we have to figure out who the progressive Democrat candidate is (leaning Bernie) and who the more centrist Democrat candidate is (a bit less clear now), and then those 2 can face off to decide who challenges Trump.

It's all very Sibelius. Different tempi for different parts of the orchestra...

Indeed.

[Karl Henning]

Bernie Sanders Won the New Hampshire Primary; Ignore the Mainstream Media Spin

https://www.youtube.com/v/vDbbuGIy1yg

Is JBS's point "media spin"?

[Karl Henning]

Yeah and even less voted for someone else since Bernie won. You think all those won didn't vote for Bernie will vote for Trump if it's Trump vs Bernie? Polls indicate otherwise. Also, if you voted for say Warren it doesn't mean you hate Bernie. It means you preferred Warren. Bernie is the second or third choice for many. The reason why "progressive candidates" got less than half of votes is imo because of the way corporate media [treats] them.

This is no rebuttal, but the knee-jerk dismissal of any analysis that doesn't tell you what you want to hear.