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Re: And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020
« Reply #3640 on: March 23, 2020, 07:48:38 PM »
Query 1 How is that enforced?
Query 2 If someone has to be dragged, metaphorically or otherwise, to the voting booth, do you really want them to vote, if they are truly a low-information voter?

It's not an assault on the freedom of the individual, but I have to wonder if the presumable result, a voter apathetic about the result and not at all informed on the issues, is really worth it.

1: It’s enforced by crossing names off the electoral roll as people vote, and then following up people who weren’t crossed off. Not that many people end up getting fined because there’s a range of recognised excuses.

2: It’s not actually an obligation to VOTE. Once you’ve got your ballot paper, the truth is you can scribble a penis on it, stick the ballot paper in the box and no one will know it was you.

But there a variety of benefits. For one thing it encourages people to not be quite so completely apathetic. For another it encourages politicians to be more moderate.

Also, sausage sizzles and cake stalls on Election Day are a huge thing here. One might not look forward to the actual voting, but one still looks forward to a ‘democracy sausage’.
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Re: And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020
« Reply #3641 on: March 24, 2020, 03:54:46 AM »
Apparently the establishment wanted Andew Cuomo to be the Democrat's nominee, but Cuomo didn't run. Changes are the DNC wants to replace Biden with Cuomo in the end...  :P
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Re: And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020
« Reply #3642 on: March 24, 2020, 04:19:10 AM »
Apparently the establishment wanted Andew Cuomo to be the Democrat's nominee, but Cuomo didn't run. Changes are the DNC wants to replace Biden with Cuomo in the end...  :P

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« Reply #3643 on: March 24, 2020, 04:32:29 AM »
Source?

Not one you'd trust I'm afraid. This is pure speculation and can be complitely wrong according to the source.
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« Reply #3644 on: March 24, 2020, 05:09:01 AM »

Voting is compulsory in Belgium too. Other counties that make it compulsory: Brazil, Austria, Greece, Italy, the Netherlands and probably a few others.


Voting is not compulsory in The Netherlands.

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« Reply #3645 on: March 24, 2020, 05:20:08 AM »
Not one you'd trust I'm afraid. This is pure speculation and can be complitely wrong according to the source.

Just another of your masturbatory posts, then.
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« Reply #3646 on: March 24, 2020, 05:52:22 AM »
Not one you'd trust I'm afraid. This is pure speculation and can be complitely wrong according to the source.

So what exactly was the point? You post something starting with "apparently" and now tell me there's absolutely no basis for it being apparent.

Basically you're being a gossip.
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« Reply #3647 on: March 24, 2020, 05:58:42 AM »
So what exactly was the point? You post something starting with "apparently" and now tell me there's absolutely no basis for it being apparent.
Basically [the guy who makes a chump of himself, telling us Americans how supposedly ill-informed we are] is a gossip.
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Re: And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020
« Reply #3648 on: March 24, 2020, 06:37:04 AM »

     We are all Modern Monetarists now

      This is a horrible title for an article with good stuff in it. To be modern is to not be a monetarist.

      In a money economy what's for sale can be bought. To run out of dollars for an emergency is insane.

How will we pay for it? Well, who ever asked that about funding a war, and — as the president himself has said — this fight against COVID-19 is a war.

However, it is not a reasonable question in the first place. The US, the UK, and Japan print their own currencies and issue their national debt only in their own currencies. Moreover, we don't wait to issue debt or collect taxes to spend money – Congress authorizes spending and the Treasury calls upon the Federal Reserve to provide funding, which the latter does at a keystroke.

The issue of "balancing the books" with taxes or via the issuance of debt is not only an afterthought — it is not even necessary. Our government holds a monopoly to "issue" the currency, it does not merely "use" it like the rest of us.


     I'm offended by the idea that people have to die in large numbers to get it into peoples heads how a money system is not a torture device. Money is what it's used for, not for itself. It can buy what's for sale in a depression just as well as in normal times. This is proved every time we do it. What we do, we can do.

     
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Re: And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020
« Reply #3649 on: March 24, 2020, 07:09:19 AM »
Voting is not compulsory in The Netherlands.

My bad. It was repealed in 1970. Italy repealed it in 1993. I just read the list, not the details  :-[.

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« Reply #3650 on: March 24, 2020, 08:36:41 AM »
Just another of your masturbatory posts, then.

In my recent listening to Offenbach I encountered a line which describes Poju perfectly.

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« Reply #3651 on: March 24, 2020, 09:30:20 AM »
Vraiment!
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Re: And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020
« Reply #3652 on: March 24, 2020, 09:34:45 AM »
In my recent listening to Offenbach I encountered a line which describes Poju perfectly.

Que bavard insupportable! Que discours interminable!
Indeed. Some time ago I suspected he was taking the mickey out of all of us. Now I’m 100% sure that’s the case.

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« Reply #3653 on: March 24, 2020, 09:57:08 AM »
Indeed. Some time ago I suspected he was taking the mickey out of all of us. Now I’m 100% sure that’s the case.

BTW, Andrei, your inbox is full,

Not anymore.
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Re: And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020
« Reply #3654 on: March 24, 2020, 11:08:22 AM »
Just another of your masturbatory posts, then.

typo. you meant 'masterdebater'.

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« Reply #3655 on: March 24, 2020, 11:35:39 AM »
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« Reply #3656 on: March 25, 2020, 06:00:18 PM »
With states moving primaries due to coronavirus, Joe Biden may not be the presumptive Democratic nominee until June
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« Reply #3657 on: March 27, 2020, 03:21:10 PM »
Joe Biden BACKS OUT of debate with Bernie Sanders.

Surely Biden understands he has to debate with Trump in the general and Trump IS NOT as nice as Bernie Sanders has been calling him his "friend" and all...  :P
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« Reply #3658 on: March 27, 2020, 03:55:42 PM »
No. You understand that, but Biden does not. Dang, ain't you the clever one?!
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« Reply #3659 on: March 27, 2020, 04:04:14 PM »
There's no need for another debate because Sanders should bow out. One more debate wont change anyones mind about anything at this stage. Not to mention that they're both needed elsewhere.

But its got to be deja vu all over again as he drags it out and stops the eventual nominee from being able to turn their attention and resources to going after Trump, and with only the most halfhearted and lukewarm ask from Sanders to his Bernie Bros to get behind the nominee and help defeat Trump rather than sulk at home or continue to attack the nominee on social media.