And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[Wendell_E]

I get to vote in Super Tuesday!

Me too!

Who do I vote for.

I'll vote for Warren, or if she drops out in the next 26½ hours, Sanders.

One of my sisters from out of state is staying overnight for a dentist visit. I was pleased, and a bit surprised when she said she's switched her registration from Republican to Democrat because she thought the most important thing was to get Trump out. She's expressed some support for him in the past. And she lives in Florida, a swing state. I'm in Alabama, so my presidential vote in November's pretty useless.

[71 dB]

Who do I vote for.

There's several Insurance Company/Big Pharma -friendly "healthcare is NOT a human right, but the rich have the right to rig the system" -candidates left to choose from if you want to make sure millions of American's will lack healthcare also in the future. Klobuchar is still in the race to take delegates away from Bernie in her home state Minnesota, but she had to cancel a a rally there because of  Black Lives Matter -protesters. Same with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts. They want to stop Bernie, because the 1 % donor class means to them more than the 99 % of regular people.

According to Morning Consult Buttigieg's exit could amount to a 2-point boost each for Sanders, Biden, Warren and Bloomberg.
https://morningconsult.com/2020/03/01/pete-buttigieg-second-choice-polling/

[SimonNZ]

Ffs...Your posts make me wish Sanders would have another heart attack.

[71 dB]

Ffs...Your posts make me wish Sanders would have another heart attack.

What a nice guy you are wishing harm to others.

I hope you don't have an heart attack when you see how many delegates Bernie gets on Super Tuesday. 

[Marc]

What a nice guy you are wishing harm to others.

[...]

Yeah.

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I say this: If americans fuck up this chance to elect Bernie Sanders as their president I will forget the damn country even exists! The rest of the World needs to save this planet as the US keeps enriching fossil fuckers and I won't care about the suffering of americans because of oligarchy. YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE!! Don't whine in South Carolina when your social security is cut so billionaires can have bigger tax cuts! YOU voted for Biden instead of Bernie! YOU fucked up yourself. Suffer the consequencies. [...]

Nice indeed.

Music.
Songbirds (springtime is coming!).
Nature in general.
Damn fine history books and/or novels.
Poetry.
Learn how to play chess and then play online.
Art.
A chat with your neighbour.
Pretty girls.

All much more fun than politics.
Even for Aspergers.

[Florestan]

Pretty girls.

Even a Sanna Marin poster could do the trick. 

[71 dB]

I don't wish harm to Americans. I want them to have a better country, but if they don't take the great chance they now have with Bernie Sanders I can't help them. I have my own life. I can't make millions of Americans to realize they have been brainwashed by the corporate media. That's what I mean.

[Marc]

I don't wish harm to Americans. I want them to have a better country, but if they don't take the great chance they now have with Bernie Sanders I can't help them. I have my own life. I can't make millions of Americans to realize they have been brainwashed by the corporate media. That's what I mean.

Some people are brainwashed by media.

Others by one-sided ideals.

In their behaviour, they show some similarities.

We're all individuals, we're all different (yeah yeah all right), but in the end we all have to live together.
My 'one-sided ideal' would be: search for the similarities, not for the differences.

That's why I keep my fingers crossed that in my own country we won't go to a 2 or 3 political party system, which has been advocated here in the past.
We have 4.924 (or was it 5.137?) different political parties in this small country. I hope we keep it that way. To govern, at least 4 or 5 parties have to seriously seek for similarities and agreements. It's way better than to seek for differences, disagreements and division.

[Florestan]

I have my own life.

[milk]

Me too!

I'll vote for Warren, or if she drops out in the next 26½ hours, Sanders.

One of my sisters from out of state is staying overnight for a dentist visit. I was pleased, and a bit surprised when she said she's switched her registration from Republican to Democrat because she thought the most important thing was to get Trump out. She's expressed some support for him in the past. And she lives in Florida, a swing state. I'm in Alabama, so my presidential vote in November's pretty useless.

Florida is one state Sanders will never win. I liked Warren whom I think is a great failed candidate. She's smart, she means well, she's optimistic, and she makes huge blunders. I can't believe I'm getting to the point of thinking Biden is the best we can do against tump. I never would have thought I'd have such a thought.

[milk]

Can someone tell me what happens to the delegates of a candidate that drops out?

[Karl Henning]

I say this: If americans fuck up this chance to elect Bernie Sanders as their president I will forget the damn country even exists! The rest of the World needs to save this planet as the US keeps enriching fossil fuckers and I won't care about the suffering of americans because of oligarchy. YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE!! Don't whine in South Carolina when your social security is cut so billionaires can have bigger tax cuts! YOU voted for Biden instead of Bernie! YOU fucked up yourself. Suffer the consequencies. Pray that people on other States are smarter than you. 10.8 % of people in South Carolina don't have healthcare. Biden's "lets make ObamaCare a little better" incrementalism won't make that zero, not even close!

You are one sorry shot.

[Karl Henning]

With the Super Tuesday primaries rapidly approaching, a broad swath of Democratic  voters are less interested in the political "revolution" promised by front-runner Bernie Sanders than they are in someone who would simply restore decency to the White House and provide stable leadership without wrecking the economy.

[Karl Henning]

Star Trek has a lesson Bernie bros need to hear: We're not ready

If you are a progressive, I understand you yearn for President Sanders with all your heart. But I beg you. Consider the rest of us.

The Bernie Sanders campaign is based on an idea that the data just does not support, that there are millions of invisible voters who will rise up and help Bernie throw Donald Trump out of office. The reality is that Presidential Candidate Sanders would present voters in critical, must-win states like Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida and Michigan with the question of who terrifies them less. And it is by no means certain that they will conclude that a committed socialist, even a democratic one, is the lesser of two evils.

But suppose Bernie did win the presidency. What then? If there is no evidence that millions of previously-unseen voters will flock to his banner, there is massive, irrefutable evidence that huge swaths of America absolutely will not. We all saw the debate and the extreme discomfort that even many Democrats have with many of Bernie's ideas. Imagine how Independents and Republicans feel.

[JBS]

I don't wish harm to Americans. I want them to have a better country, but if they don't take the great chance they now have with Bernie Sanders I can't help them. I have my own life. I can't make millions of Americans to realize they have been brainwashed by the corporate media. That's what I mean.

Well, we can't get you to realize you've been brainwashed by leftist Youtubers...

Bernie's agenda is devoted to giving a bunch of bureaucrats the power to boss ordinary people around in important areas of their life, with no chance of those ordinary people bring able to push back. Bernie's agenda is premised on handing control over to an elite. Please explain to me how that will be better than having the oligarchs boss us around.

And don't bother telling me health care will be better, because it won't. Bernie's proposal is a fantasy.

[Ratliff]

There's several Insurance Company/Big Pharma -friendly "healthcare is NOT a human right, but the rich have the right to rig the system" -candidates left to choose from if you want to make sure millions of American's will lack healthcare also in the future. Klobuchar is still in the race to take delegates away from Bernie in her home state Minnesota, but she had to cancel a a rally there because of  Black Lives Matter -protesters. Same with Elizabeth Warren in Massachusetts. They want to stop Bernie, because the 1 % donor class means to them more than the 99 % of regular people.

According to Morning Consult Buttigieg's exit could amount to a 2-point boost each for Sanders, Biden, Warren and Bloomberg.
https://morningconsult.com/2020/03/01/pete-buttigieg-second-choice-polling/

You have this bizarre idea that Bernie Sanders is an angel sent from heaven to save us and every other politician is a corrupt vampire. There are a lot of politicians that seek office because they want to serve their country and its people. They have to do things they would rather not do in order to get the funding they need to succeed. I don't disagree with much of what Sanders wants to do. But it is delusional to think there is a mandate for his "revolution."  Even if he were elected, he would deliver nothing but government impasse. That would be an improvement over what we have now. I don't think he would best Trump.

I agree with Buttigieg (and Booker) that the right way forward is to create a government health care option and work to make it do good that most people will select it. That will be the transition to Medicare for all, or whatever they call it. It is critical that health insurance be delivered to those who have none or inadequate insurance without disrupting the insurance of those who have satisfactory health insurance. The ACA was a big improvement and we can work forward from there.

I support Warren.

[Karl Henning]

You have this bizarre idea that Bernie Sanders is an angel sent from heaven to save us and every other politician is a corrupt vampire. There are a lot of politicians that seek office because they want to serve their country and its people. They have to do things they would rather not do in order to get the funding they need to succeed. I don't disagree with much of what Sanders wants to do. But it is delusional to think there is a mandate for his "revolution."  Even if he were elected, he would deliver nothing but government impasse. That would be an improvement over what we have now. I don't think he would best Trump.

I agree with Buttigieg (and Booker) that the right way forward is to create a government health care option and work to make it do good that most people will select it. That will be the transition to Medicare for all, or whatever they call it. It is critical that health insurance be delivered to those who have none or inadequate insurance without disrupting the insurance of those who have satisfactory health insurance. The ACA was a big improvement and we can work forward from there.

I support Warren.

Very interested to see how she fares tomorrow.  Of course, I do like her, and appreciate her work in the Senate.

[Karl Henning]

Klobuchar is dropping out, flying to Dallas to join Biden at his rally there.

[71 dB]

Bernie's proposal is a fantasy.

You are still using that argument? Other countries do the things Bernie is proposing. Have been doing for decades. The US has been talking about medicare for all for a century by now. Just how long does it take to be ready for change? 500 years? You are not part of the top 1 % so why the fuck do you defend the rigged system? You are part of the 99 %. Bernie is your guy. You just need to realize it, but I have given up on you and pretty much the whole GMG! Vote for who you want and say what you want. I don't give a rats ass anymore... 

[JBS]

You are still using that argument? Other countries do the things Bernie is proposing. Have been doing for decades. The US has been talking about medicare for all for a century by now. Just how long does it take to be ready for change? 500 years? You are not part of the top 1 % so why the fuck do you defend the rigged system? You are part of the 99 %. Bernie is your guy. You just need to realize it, but I have given up on you and pretty much the whole GMG! Vote for who you want and say what you want. I don't give a rats ass anymore... 

Bernie's plans claims to be able to provide everyone better health care for free, and most drugs for a minimal charge. How many countries do that? And do those countries have a Congress like the US, which was designed to give all factions a say and a veto over every important idea?

You seem incapable of understanding my main point.  Bernie wants programs that consist of bureaucrats bossing everyone around. If it's bad for oligarchs to boss me around, it's also bad for bureaucrats to boss me around.
He won't get rid of the system. He'll just add another layer to the elite.