And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[71 dB]

It's as if "Biden is the greatest candidate ever" is the only allowed opinion here. What is wrong with you? He is in cognitive decline. He is a war criminal. He is against regular people and for oligarchs. What is so good about him? Sorry, I don't GET IT!

[FelixSkodi]

apart from the Ignore Button you can just skip a post if it looks like you've heard it before.

Spot on. I don't think ignoring serves anyone. Plus, 71 makes good posts elsewhere.

[71 dB]

Spot on. I don't think ignoring serves anyone. Plus, 71 makes good posts elsewhere.

Nice to hear my posts are valued elsewhere. 

I can't understand how my political posts are considered problematic. Sure, I'm not always nice (but then again people aren' that nice to me always), but I do make political posts without calling anyone anything and still I get treated like an ignorant madman. 

I understand if you are a right-winger and think healthcare IS NOT a human right and poor people can die away, but IF you are not a monster and think healthcare IS a human right you should be a supporter of single payer healthcare. There is no way around it. Other systems and models do not cover everyone. That's just a cold fact and that's why other countries have single payer systems. The US would also have if it wasn't an oligarchy were only the rich matter and poor people don't matter at all.

[FelixSkodi]

I understand if you are a right-winger and think healthcare IS NOT a human right and poor people can die away, but IF you are not a monster and think heathcare IS a human right you should be a supporter of single payer healthcare. There is no way around it. Other systems and models do not cover everyone. That's just a cold fact and that's why other countries have single payer systems. The US would also have if it wasn't an oligarchy were only the rich matter and poor people don't matter at all.

This extreme style of argumentation is exactly why many in this thread don't take you all that seriously.

[Ratliff]

It's as if "Biden is the greatest candidate ever" is the only allowed opinion here. What is wrong with you? He is in cognitive decline. He is a war criminal. He is against regular people and for oligarchs. What is so good about him? Sorry, I don't GET IT!

One of the rare statements you have made that I think most people would agree with.

[MusicTurner]

Spot on. I don't think ignoring serves anyone. Plus, 71 makes good posts elsewhere.

People have been specifically and openly asking for the ignore function in this discussion not so long ago, and then expressed relief when it was found. Hence my post, besides mentioning that, as a last option, it can be useful, if one finds a poster just generally too extreme, unpleasant, or whatever.

[Ratliff]

People have been specifically asking for the ignore function on this thread not so long ago, and then expressed relief when it was found.
Hence my post, besides mentioning that, as a last option, it can be useful, if one finds a poster just generally too extreme, unpleasant, or the like.

I find the ignore function to be of no use, since it just shows me a message that a poster I ignore has posted something, click here to view it, and then I have to resist the temptation to click. Scrolling past is a more efficient means of ignoring, in my experience.

[MusicTurner]

I find the ignore function to be of no use, since it just shows me a message that a poster I ignore has posted something, click here to view it, and then I have to resist the temptation to click. Scrolling past is a more efficient means of ignoring, in my experience.

Agree to some extent, but have grown away from any such "temptation".

[FelixSkodi]

Agree to some extent, but have grown away from any such "temptation".

Plus 71 is harmless. He reminds of The Pink Harp.

Also, some of the best posters, in my opinion, were sobs - like Iago.

[71 dB]

This extreme style of argumentation is exactly why many in this thread don't take you all that seriously.

Considering 10 % of Americans lacked healthcare coverage BEFORE Covid-19 crisis (it's much worse now) and much more are undercovered not to forget tens of thousands of American die yearly because they lack access to healthcare and even those who are covered are in danger of going bankrupt due to an illness I'd say my style is not too extreme compared to the extreme problems with the US healthcare system. On the contrary, it's the corporate media downplaying these problems as if this kind of reality made sense in a rich developped country*

* During the last few years I have come to the realization than the US isn't in fact a developped country, but a very rich and powerful third world country pretending to be a first world country. The greatest banana republic on Earth. So, mr. Trump is actually quite fitting President for such a country elected by uneducated, ignorant, economically crushed/desperate and mislead people. If my style is extreme it's because I want Americans to wake up, open their eyes to the reality.

[Todd]

It's as if "Biden is the greatest candidate ever" is the only allowed opinion here.

No one on earth has said that.  Probably not even Biden himself.  He can, however, win.  That is what is important. 

[71 dB]

No one on earth has said that.  Probably not even Biden himself.  He can, however, win.  That is what is important.

Of course he can win, especially now that Covid-19 is exposing Trump's incompetence and ruining the economy for many.
Biden struggles with voters under 45 and does well with voters over 45 so it's up to how active the older voters will be. In the important rust belt Biden is expected to be as weak as Hillary Clinton was. For the left and young voters this primary was so frustrating that a lot of people will probably check out of politics meaning problems for the Democrats unless they start to listen to the left.

[Todd]

In the important rust belt Biden is expected to be as weak as Hillary Clinton was.

Incorrect.

[Ratliff]

Of course he can win, especially now that Covid-19 is exposing Trump's incompetence and ruining the economy for many.
Biden struggles with voters under 45 and does well with voters over 45 so it's up to how active the older voters will be. In the important rust belt Biden is expected to be as weak as Hillary Clinton was. For the left and young voters this primary was so frustrating that a lot of people will probably check out of politics meaning problems for the Democrats unless they start to listen to the left.

I've got an idea, if you type something and realize you have already typed the exact same sentence ten thousand times, maybe give it a rest.

[FelixSkodi]

Incorrect.

I think this applies to nearly every post by 71 in this thread. It's almost awe-inspiring how consistently he gets so much wrong.

[71 dB]

I think this applies to nearly every post by 71 in this thread. It's almost awe-inspiring how consistently he gets so much wrong.

What is it I get wrong? What I say is well documented. Corporate media smears these facts, but it's because they serve the oligarchs. If see the studies you see I am right.

For example here is BBC arcticle of the US being an oligarchy. If I am wrong so is BBC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

[Herman]

It's safe to say that most people posting on political topics have no compuctions about reiterating their pov multiple times.

And that includes moi.

[Karl Henning]

"Meanwhile, Biden has held an extraordinarily steady lead of about 6 points. ("Biden's advantage is the steadiest in a race with an incumbent running since at least 1944.") Although he is squirreled away at home, his ads expertly reinforce the public's negative image of Trump's performance...."

[Todd]

2020 campaign issue: Pro-Trump group releasing new ad using audio of Tara Reade

2022 campaign issue: Biden Warns Against Coronavirus Stimulus Corruption

[JBS]

What is it I get wrong? What I say is well documented. Corporate media smears these facts, but it's because they serve the oligarchs. If see the studies you see I am right.

For example here is BBC arcticle of the US being an oligarchy. If I am wrong so is BBC.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

That study is way too simplistic because it confines itself to analysis by income level. The NRA is a "mass interest group", and so is the AARP, yet they have significant input on  policy.

And I would be very surprised if a comparable survey in most democratic countries did not yield comparable results  .