Shostakovich plays his compositions

Started by Roy Bland, August 06, 2019, 05:15:12 PM

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Roy Bland

DSCH was also a good performer,here a 5 cds set of his own compositions:
https://melody.su/catalog/classic/41031/

Brian

I've heard the EMI recordings of his own concertos. I'm actually not a huge fan - they're so fast that he seems to be dashing through them without making any attempt to express or engage with his own work.

Of course...it's possible that those readings are really what he had in mind...

Roy Bland

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Quote from: Brian on August 06, 2019, 05:17:24 PM
I've heard the EMI recordings of his own concertos. I'm actually not a huge fan - they're so fast that he seems to be dashing through them without making any attempt to express or engage with his own work.

Of course...it's possible that those readings are really what he had in mind...
Genuinity is troubled in performing.I prefer Haitink's DSCH cycle than Mravinsky (Leningrad orchestra's brass IMHO were too much imprecise and sound quality low)

vandermolen

Quote from: Roy Bland on August 06, 2019, 05:15:12 PM
DSCH was also a good performer,here a 5 cds set of his own compositions:
https://melody.su/catalog/classic/41031/

I always liked the version of the marvellous Piano Quintet featuring the composer.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

aukhawk

Yes that recording of the Quintet is good.

I would suggest - without intending any disrespect - that DSCH was a good pianist - concert-level even, in the context of his time and place - but no virtuoso.  And that the same is probably true of his son Maxim.  Most of his music featuring a piano (such as the Quintet) was written with either himself or his son in mind, as the performer - and to my ears it shows, in the piano writing as set against the string parts in the Quintet for example. 
(The Preludes and Fugues are an exception to this generality, being written for Nikolayeva. DSCH did record several of them, but not all I think.)

Ras

Quote from: Roy Bland on August 06, 2019, 05:15:12 PM
DSCH was also a good performer,here a 5 cds set of his own compositions:
https://melody.su/catalog/classic/41031/

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
I have been waiting for years for an official re-release of opus 134 with Oistrakh on violin and Shostakovich on piano.
Where I live the new Melodya box is already on Spotify - whereas I can't find it on Amazon:

https://open.spotify.com/album/6tEPzhOk9TSiVvlN6sUYCO?si=srnY8GSwT6uFwMHkUPODSg
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amw

Shostakovich's recordings of the piano concertos are also not ideal as they were made after his hands started to be affected by a muscular degenerative condition. The recordings from the 1940s are better, I will particularly recommend the Piano Trio recordings w either Shirinsky/Tsiganov or Oistrakh/Sadlo which present the music very differently from the way "modern" recordings do—absolutely devoid of sentimentality and with a concentrated ferocity—and therefore probably represent the composer's intentions more clearly.

Mandryka

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Quote from: amw on August 07, 2019, 04:26:19 AM
I will particularly recommend the Piano Trio recordings w either Shirinsky/Tsiganov or Oistrakh/Sadlo which present the music very differently from the way "modern" recordings do—absolutely devoid of sentimentality and with a concentrated ferocity—and therefore probably represent the composer's intentions more clearly.

This is exactly how I felt the last time I listened to these recordings, which is about 10 years ago. I'm just not in the mood today!

I did however listen to both Shostakovich and Nikolayeva playing some of the op 87 Preludes and Fugues quite recently, the first recordings she made, I like the composer's recordings very much, and, as you'd expect (she wasn't his puppet!) very different from Nikolayeva's. Nikolayeva seems to me to imbue the music with a warm nostalgic glow, DSCH doesn't. I want to say that Nikolayeva's treatment makes them sound almost Brahmsian, while Shostakovich makes them sound sui generis.

Both Shostakovich and Hindemith wrote big sets of preludes  and fugues, and DSCH's recordings make me see the composers as having some aesthetic ideas in common, not least seriousness. Anyway, that's just an idea to explore sometime.
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aukhawk

Quote from: Brian on August 06, 2019, 05:17:24 PM
I've heard the EMI recordings of his own concertos. I'm actually not a huge fan - they're so fast that he seems to be dashing through them without making any attempt to express or engage with his own work.
Of course...it's possible that those readings are really what he had in mind...

Time pressure maybe?

Recording producer:  "Dmitri - we've only got a 20 minute reel of tape."
DSCH:  "Oh - da."
Producer:  "We're re-using that tape with Stalin's birthday speech on it, is that OK?"
DSCH:  "DA."

aukhawk

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Quote from: amw on August 07, 2019, 04:26:19 AM
I will particularly recommend the Piano Trio recordings w either Shirinsky/Tsiganov or Oistrakh/Sadlo which present the music very differently from the way "modern" recordings do—absolutely devoid of sentimentality and with a concentrated ferocity—and therefore probably represent the composer's intentions more clearly.

That Trio with Oistrakh/Sadlo (which is included in the compilation linked in the OP) is searing! - thanks for pointing that one out.

[edit to add - also from the same compilation, the Concertino for 2 Pianos which has an adjacent opus number to the 10th Symphony, and I'd never heard it before.