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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50140 on: September 25, 2021, 07:25:04 AM »
Cantata BWV 27 / Kuijken

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50141 on: September 25, 2021, 07:25:35 AM »
Hindemith: Kleine Kammermusik for 5 wind instruments Op. 24/2 [13]





I particularly like the somewhat irreverent tone and whimsical nature of this work. I find it to be particularly engaging and very attractive. The scoring is very appealing and engaging in its sonorities. I also find the musical language to be very interesting. It is a different sounding, very fine and engrossing work. This would be a highly recommended listen. The musical language is intriguing.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50142 on: September 25, 2021, 07:26:21 AM »
Hindemith: Kleine Kammermusik for 5 wind instruments Op. 24/2 [13]





I particularly like the somewhat irreverent tone and whimsical nature of this work. I find it to be particularly engaging and very attractive. The scoring is very appealing and engaging in its sonorities. I also find the musical language to be very interesting. It is a different sounding, very fine and engrossing work. This would be a highly recommended listen. The musical language is intriguing.

Great stuff!
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50143 on: September 25, 2021, 07:26:42 AM »
Beethoven

Symphony No.5



 When I look at what members put forward as their best cycle, I rarely see these recordings.
What's wrong with these recordings, the articulations are so refreshing especially when compared to the Karajan recordings from about the same period.
With Isserstedt no effect is sought, which is often the case with many available recordings, if only to stand out in all that crowd.
These recordings are often described as middle of the road, an assessment that misleads many.
It is also not a good description, everything is present in a beautiful balance, the music unfolds in all its nuances without forgetting the big picture. When I say that these are honest interpretations, a negative connotation arises again. What I mean is that optimal justice is done to the intentions contained in the score.
The symphony begins rhythmically pulsating with an eye for lyricism that is not exaggerated.
Beethoven is only more human because of this unpretentious approach.
The tempos chosen are lower than is usual in our modern times",
I would say "so what"

Since we have more time, everything has to go faster.





Fine words, Jan, and written with conviction  :)
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50144 on: September 25, 2021, 07:27:27 AM »


So I have had a listen!
As Traverso says, "...The tempos chosen are lower than is usual in our modern times....so what?"
I did think it half a beat slower than expected, but the symphony above is well rounded, consistent, everything is in it's place, no fancy stuff, and more solid than whizz bang 'modern times' interpretations.  It definitely has powerful undertones, never overstated, but mighty in delivery.  Thanks aligreto, it was worth the journey!   ;D

I am very pleased that you also found it to be engaging.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50145 on: September 25, 2021, 07:28:37 AM »
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and leave no doubt.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50146 on: September 25, 2021, 07:44:32 AM »
Rameau


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« Reply #50147 on: September 25, 2021, 08:33:56 AM »

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50148 on: September 25, 2021, 08:44:21 AM »
Felix Mendelssohn
String Symphony 7 in d minor

Gewandhaus - Kurt Masur


I wonder how much time passed between String Symphony #6 and #7, because the latter shows a bigger leap in ability than the previous six combined.

The 2nd movement of #7, which begins with solo strings, leads into the entire string orchestra gorgeously; I could listen to it endlessly. The 3rd movement has a solidly swinging dance tune, even if the trio is a little clunky. The opening movement still holds onto those Baroque motor rhythms, but with some differing string textures, yet the finale barters between Baroque counterpoint and a more forward-looking, Classical-Era balanced tunefulness.

These are warm, full string performances that lean to my preferences, but I could understand a want for a HIP presentation.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50149 on: September 25, 2021, 08:48:56 AM »
Koechlin

La Course de Printemps



Ooh, you have the complete Holliger series (and I think there's some Koechlin piano and chamber works in there.) Unfortunately I think it's hard to find now...

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50150 on: September 25, 2021, 08:51:58 AM »
Veni, Creator Spiritus
mentes tuorum visita.

I needed that today.

Now for a bit of the birthday boy:



Dmitri Shostakovich: Piano Quintet in G minor, op.57. Constantine Orbelian, Moscow String Quartet

First listen to this recording; it sounds great.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50151 on: September 25, 2021, 09:22:17 AM »
CD: 34

“Wolferl”


A disc of trifles, but most of them written from the age of 23 through to his final year, and so (on balace) worthwhile trifles, anyway.

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« Reply #50152 on: September 25, 2021, 09:32:00 AM »
Felix Mendelssohn
String Symphony 8 in D Major (version for strings only)
String Symphony 8 in D Major (version with winds)

Gewandhaus - Kurt Masur


Two elements of particular interest here for me:

The 2nd movement of the strings-only version is written for 3-part divisi violas and bass only. It is really an effective use of mood making as it is also in a minor key, but the low tessitura instrumentation makes for an interesting listen. Mendelssohn's melodic ability in this particular case is also quite enchanting. The massive, drawn-out setting of counterpoint in the finale shows Mendelssohn really coming into his own, and it is quite the monument to end this symphony on.

The version of SS #8 with winds shows a young Mendelssohn as an arranger of his own music, and I like seeing how he divvy's up the four-part strings amongst the winds. Some of it is doubling, but there are plenty of stand alone wind parts that make the work sound different. Mendelssohn writes a completely different 3rd movement trio as well, but its this movement where the winds add the most character to the music.

Odd that String Symphony 8 was a separate release on its own; I'm not sure how much interest there is in this particular SS outside of a complete set. That said, I don't know how may sets include the wind version either.

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« Reply #50153 on: September 25, 2021, 09:34:06 AM »
Felix Mendelssohn
String Symphony 8 in D major (version for strings only)
String Symphony 8 in D Major (version with winds)

Gewandhaus - Kurt Masur


Two elements of particular interest here for me:

The 2nd movement of the strings-only version is written for 3-part divisi violas and bass only. It is really an effective use of mood making as it is also in a minor key, but the low tessitura instrumentation makes for an interesting listen. Mendelssohn's melodic ability in this particular case is also quite enchanting.

The version of SS #8 with winds shows a young Mendelssohn as an arranger of his own music, and I like seeing how he divvy's up the four-part strings amongst the winds. Some of it is doubling, but there are plenty of stand alone wind parts that make the work sound different. Mendelssohn writes a completely different 3rd movement trio as well.

Odd that String Symphony 8 was a separate release on its own; I'm not sure how much interest there is in this particular SS outside of a complete set. That said, I don't know how may sets include the wind version either.



I'm enjoying your reports of your traversal of these works.
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« Reply #50154 on: September 25, 2021, 09:34:54 AM »
I re-read Solti’s memoir a few weeks ago. He talks about various recording sessions for Decca. It was a nice read.

Would love to read that sometime. I admire Solti, though I understand he seems to have been somewhat of an abrasive person.

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« Reply #50155 on: September 25, 2021, 09:43:44 AM »
“Wolferl”

Symphony № 39 in Eb K. 543
Mozart Akademie Amsterdam
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« Reply #50156 on: September 25, 2021, 09:55:15 AM »
I'm enjoying your reports of your traversal of these works.

I am glad to hear that, Karl. I spent last weekend listening to his main mature symphonies so I would have context for this set, and it has been enjoyable to spend time with this music today.

It turns out, these stand on their own pretty well so far. I doubt any composer would want to be known for their teenaged scribblings, but Mendelssohn's propulsion towards orchestral maturity is startling in these string symphonies.

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« Reply #50157 on: September 25, 2021, 10:28:36 AM »
One of Jeffrey's favourites I know!



I've been looking for a reasonably priced copy of this original Collins release for ages and one recently popped up (the original has the Holst Perfect Fool and the Alto re-release has other RVW).  A good Job - perhaps not as stunning as I'd hoped.  The Dance and Vision of Satan not as apocalyptic as I'd like BUT the "Elihu's Dance of Youth" an absolutely GORGEOUS violin solo by James Clark.  What a great piece it is - the very essence of RVW - pastoral/ecstatic.  Fine rich recording by the ever excellent Trygg Tryggvason.  Such a shame Collins was so short lived as a label - they produced many excellent discs but perhaps lacking a particular identity as far as repertoire or artists was concerned? Well worth my 99p!

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50158 on: September 25, 2021, 11:03:00 AM »
Ooh, you have the complete Holliger series (and I think there's some Koechlin piano and chamber works in there.) Unfortunately I think it's hard to find now...

This is the other one,I did purchase them just in time.


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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50159 on: September 25, 2021, 11:14:37 AM »
Adieu Madame

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