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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18400 on: June 09, 2020, 04:47:52 AM »
Resuming Holmboe back from the 6th with more focus than yesterday.

For now, the first mvt make this one go into the "unsure" category with the 4th.



I love the first movement. But the 6th definitely represents the beginning of a stylistic change.

You commented (yesterday?) about expecting Holmboe to be more dissonant. There is definitely an evolution of his style over time, but how much it's apparent depends a lot on what music you are listening to. The only symphony that comes from his most 'advanced' stage is the 9th.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18401 on: June 09, 2020, 04:55:03 AM »
Beethoven:  Symphony No 4 in B flat major - Pittsburgh Symphony No 4 conducted by William Steinberg - fine, lively performance

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18402 on: June 09, 2020, 05:13:47 AM »
I love the first movement. But the 6th definitely represents the beginning of a stylistic change.

You commented (yesterday?) about expecting Holmboe to be more dissonant. There is definitely an evolution of his style over time, but how much it's apparent depends a lot on what music you are listening to. The only symphony that comes from his most 'advanced' stage is the 9th.

Interesting. I am onto his 7th now and the adagio represents the general difficulty and block I had for a long time with Vaughan Williams' symphonies, that constant zig-zaging, feeling wrong footed, almost a sea sickness. Over time, I have cracked that nut with RVW and now enjoy his symphonies immensely (bar the "Sea" symphony).

At least, I can listen to that 7th's adagio now but I wouldn't say I enjoy it. I guess my dissonance threshold is still there or thereabout for now. I'll see how i get on with the rest of the cycle in any case.

edit: just to add to the confusion, I have actually just pressed replay on the 7th's Presto  ;D  0:)
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18403 on: June 09, 2020, 05:14:39 AM »
Lovely cover image. What's the Viola Concerto like John? I especially like his Second and Third symphonies.

I’d say if you liked the Violin Concerto, ‘Distant Light’ or Vientuļais eņģelis (Lonely Angel), then you would definitely like the Viola Concerto. There is some folkiness in the second movement that I found quite appealing. The ending movement Adagio is so gorgeous. You’ll definitely enjoy it, Jeffrey.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18404 on: June 09, 2020, 05:16:07 AM »
Xenakis: Anaktoria.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18405 on: June 09, 2020, 05:17:12 AM »
Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, Hough, Litton, Dallas




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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18406 on: June 09, 2020, 05:22:36 AM »
Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, Hough, Litton, Dallas




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Is it the best performance ever (of the PCs as well) as some reviewers, including critics, rave?
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18407 on: June 09, 2020, 05:24:00 AM »



From the big box. It's nice to hear a young Beethoven work out some ideas he incorporated (not much) later in other works. 
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18408 on: June 09, 2020, 05:29:12 AM »
I’d say if you liked the Violin Concerto, ‘Distant Light’ or Vientuļais eņģelis (Lonely Angel), then you would definitely like the Viola Concerto. There is some folkiness in the second movement that I found quite appealing. The ending movement Adagio is so gorgeous. You’ll definitely enjoy it, Jeffrey.
OK thanks for the feedback John.

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Kabalevsky: Piano Concerto No.1
I probably play this more often than any other work by Kabalevsky. In places it is tuneful and high spirited but the slow movement, in particular, has some moments of troubled depth. I rate this PC very highly alongside the Cello Concerto No.2, the First and Fourth Symphony and the Cello Sonata as my favourite works by Kabalevsky:
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18409 on: June 09, 2020, 05:29:25 AM »
Xenakis: Anaktoria.



And now Oophaa for harpsichord and percussion - a massive contrast.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18410 on: June 09, 2020, 05:40:17 AM »
Is it the best performance ever (of the PCs as well) as some reviewers, including critics, rave?

You didn’t ask me, Andrei, but I would say ‘no’. My favorite cycle is probably Andsnes/Pappano from several years back. Such dynamic performances and they may not be the most ‘Russian’, but they do offer some rather thrilling playing.

OK thanks for the feedback John.

Now Playing:
Kabalevsky: Piano Concerto No.1
I probably play this more often than any other work by Kabalevsky. In places it is tuneful and high spirited but the slow movement, in particular, has some moments of troubled depth. I rate this PC very highly alongside the Cello Concerto No.2, the First and Fourth Symphony and the Cello Sonata as my favourite works by Kabalevsky:


My pleasure, Jeffrey. I’ve got that Kabalevsky recording, but I usually play the PCs on CPO with Korstick/Francis. Do you like that cycle?
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18411 on: June 09, 2020, 05:46:57 AM »
Holmboe Symphony No 8 "Sinfonia boreale" 1951




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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18412 on: June 09, 2020, 05:47:13 AM »
Rachmaninoff Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini, Hough, Litton, Dallas




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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18413 on: June 09, 2020, 05:49:21 AM »
Holmboe Symphony No 8 "Sinfonia boreale" 1951




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As the next in the cycle, ditto.  :)
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18414 on: June 09, 2020, 05:52:49 AM »
You didn’t ask me, Andrei, but I would say ‘no’. My favorite cycle is probably Andsnes/Pappano from several years back. Such dynamic performances and they may not be the most ‘Russian’, but I they do offer some rather thrilling playing.

I didn't ask you, John, but you are a tasteful and refined listener and your opinions are always informed --- so thanks, I put Andsnes/Pappano on "seek-and-capture" mode.  :)
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18415 on: June 09, 2020, 06:08:41 AM »
Is it the best performance ever (of the PCs as well) as some reviewers, including critics, rave?

It's a great performance of the Rhapsody for certain. The Concertos tend to be faster paced than I prefer, but when I'm in a rush they do nicely  ;D  I'd take Rudy/Jansons/St. Pete to the desert island...or Ashkenazy/Previn/LSO.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18416 on: June 09, 2020, 06:13:34 AM »
I didn't ask you, John, but you are a tasteful and refined listener and your opinions are always informed --- so thanks, I put Andsnes/Pappano on "seek-and-capture" mode.  :)

Thanks, Andrei. If I were you, I’d definitely see you couldn’t listen to some of the Andsnes/Pappano online. One of the things that struck me about their cycle is I haven’t always been enamored with the 4th PC, but this performance really opened up my ears to it and I love it now.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18417 on: June 09, 2020, 06:16:15 AM »
As the next in the cycle, ditto.  :)

Mind your ears...it can get a wee bit noisy  ;)

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18418 on: June 09, 2020, 06:16:33 AM »
More Shchedrin:

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #18419 on: June 09, 2020, 06:22:33 AM »
More Shchedrin:



Old Russian Circus Music is good fun. The 2nd Symphony less so. In fact, its form is rather odd. Not one of his best works IMO.