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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37800 on: April 14, 2021, 12:31:26 PM »
Solti almost invariably transmits to me a “nervousness” in his conducting that is not to my liking, and I get the impression that that “nervousness” is replacing real dramatic thrust. The sound also is too “angular” for me. Still, I think his Tannhäuser is a great achievement.

I’ve never been a fan of Bernstein either, but admire his Rosenkavalier, his Falstaff and his (very controversial) Tristan.

But, as you’ll have noticed, these are very personal and subjective impressions...
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37801 on: April 14, 2021, 12:36:48 PM »
Stravinsky

CD 19


Well,it seems a good idea to listen to Momentum pro Gesualdo di Venosa




I hope you enjoy it, Jan!
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37802 on: April 14, 2021, 12:45:59 PM »
Solti almost invariably transmits to me a “nervousness” in his conducting that is not to my liking, and I get the impression that that “nervousness” is replacing real dramatic thrust. The sound also is too “angular” for me. Still, I think his Tannhäuser is a great achievement.

I’ve never been a fan of Bernstein either, but admire his Rosenkavalier, his Falstaff and his (very controversial) Tristan.

But, as you’ll have noticed, these are very personal and subjective impressions...

A good observation. There is a certain neurosis in Solti’s conducting. I have also made it a point to never watch the man conduct anything again. The way he flails his arms and I think I even saw him spin his arm around like he was winding up to throw a softball pitch. Truly distracting and not fun to watch. Personally, I don’t see how any musician working under him could even understand what he’s doing on a podium. :) Truth be told, I’m much more of a Bernstein fan than Solti.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37803 on: April 14, 2021, 01:04:51 PM »
I would like to experience a performance of the Hoffnung Concerto for Conductor and Orchestra.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37804 on: April 14, 2021, 01:13:46 PM »
This is Messiaen’s notes for La Fauvette des Jardins

That is a fascinating quote you pulled and so (thread duty) I'll be listening again to this piece tomorrow, thankyou.
However there barely seems much point to the music when the programme has been described in such vivid verbal detail.

For example in my favourite piece, l'Alouette Lulu, without any reference to program notes I hear in the placid left-hand chords a depiction of weak rays of sunlight penetrating the forest, making a 'bed' rather like in painterly terms, a canvas washed in a particular background hue.  Then in the right hand, superimposed, the Wood Lark chimes in.  As the sun rises and traverses the sky, the rays (left hand again) subtly shift their position, again and again.  The Wood Lark returns.  Rinse and repeat.  At the very end of the piece, some other smaller bird runs interference, to comic effect.

Very interesting to see Lac Laffrey referenced.  This is a place in the remote heart of France that I know quite well, although I have always visited in early May, when it seems a rather chill and sombre location.  I could be wrong but I think it is the highest 'large' natural lake in France - probably a much happier place later in the year, but I've never seen it like that.  Anyway, an odd location for the Fauvette des Jardins (Garden Warbler).  If I ever return there, I'll be thinking of Messiaen.
Another place very strongly associated with him is the beautiful village of La Grave in the Alps, another place I have visited many times, and even now that it is somewhat commercialised, and the alpine scenery diminished due to global warming, here it is really very easy to feel close to Messiaen and his more spiritual side, as I have often done.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37805 on: April 14, 2021, 01:40:50 PM »
Selections from this recording:

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37806 on: April 14, 2021, 02:17:03 PM »
I hope you enjoy it, Jan!

I liked it Karl,It did me think of a transcription Webern made of Bach das musikalische opfer bwv 1079  :)

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37807 on: April 14, 2021, 02:44:28 PM »
That is a fascinating quote you pulled and so (thread duty) I'll be listening again to this piece tomorrow, thankyou.
However there barely seems much point to the music when the programme has been described in such vivid verbal detail.

For example in my favourite piece, l'Alouette Lulu, without any reference to program notes I hear in the placid left-hand chords a depiction of weak rays of sunlight penetrating the forest, making a 'bed' rather like in painterly terms, a canvas washed in a particular background hue.  Then in the right hand, superimposed, the Wood Lark chimes in.  As the sun rises and traverses the sky, the rays (left hand again) subtly shift their position, again and again.  The Wood Lark returns.  Rinse and repeat.  At the very end of the piece, some other smaller bird runs interference, to comic effect.

Very interesting to see Lac Laffrey referenced.  This is a place in the remote heart of France that I know quite well, although I have always visited in early May, when it seems a rather chill and sombre location.  I could be wrong but I think it is the highest 'large' natural lake in France - probably a much happier place later in the year, but I've never seen it like that.  Anyway, an odd location for the Fauvette des Jardins (Garden Warbler).  If I ever return there, I'll be thinking of Messiaen.
Another place very strongly associated with him is the beautiful village of La Grave in the Alps, another place I have visited many times, and even now that it is somewhat commercialised, and the alpine scenery diminished due to global warming, here it is really very easy to feel close to Messiaen and his more spiritual side, as I have often done.

When I was very young I read this book:



I had no idea it was an actual place... ::)

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37808 on: April 14, 2021, 02:47:37 PM »
Indeed she was. Good day, André.

The Strauss fest continues, with Montserrat Caballé singing the final scene from Salomé, under the baton of Leonard Bernstein.



Allein was tut's? Was tut's?
Ich habe deinen Mund geküßt,
Jokanaan
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Wunderbar!

And good day to you too, Rafael!

I should get this recording of the Final Scene with Caballé. I have her complete Salomé (under Leinsdorf), but this one under Bernstein probably finds her more free to express herself vocally and dramatically than under Leinsdorf.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37809 on: April 14, 2021, 03:36:25 PM »
NP:

Stravinsky
Renard
John Tomlinson (bass), David Wilson-Johnson (baritone), John Aler (tenor), Nigel Robson (tenor)
London Sinfonietta
Salonen




I’ll have to read more about this as I’m not sure if it’s supposed to be silly or not, but it’s certainly a fun romp. 8) This work does remind me a bit of Les noces with it’s almost relentless, drunken forward momentum. Solti should’ve conducted this work! :P
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37810 on: April 14, 2021, 03:43:56 PM »
I liked it Karl,It did me think of a transcription Webern made of Bach das musikalische opfer bwv 1079  :)

Apt, I think, Jan, as Stravinsky undertook this project after his acquaintance with Webern's work.

And, now:

Stravinsky
Disc 18: Oratorio—Melodrama Vol. 1

Œdipus Rex

The Flood
(conducted by Robt Craft in the composer's presence, Hollywood, 28-31 Mar 1962)
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37811 on: April 14, 2021, 03:54:33 PM »
Apt, I think, Jan, as Stravinsky undertook this project after his acquaintance with Webern's work.

And, now:

Stravinsky
Disc 18: Oratorio—Melodrama Vol. 1

Œdipus Rex

The Flood
(conducted by Rpbt Craft in the composer's presence, Hollywood, 28-31 Mar 1962)

If you ever get the chance, do see the film Stravinsky in Hollywood. It touches on his later period with some insightful commentary.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37812 on: April 14, 2021, 04:07:09 PM »
If you ever get the chance, do see the film Stravinsky in Hollywood. It touches on his later period with some insightful commentary.



It's in my library, John. Twice now, as it's part of this set  8)
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37813 on: April 14, 2021, 04:10:02 PM »
Stravinsky
Disc 18: Oratorio—Melodrama Vol. 1

Œdipus Rex

The Flood
(conducted by Robt Craft in the composer's presence, Hollywood, 28-31 Mar 1962)

It's curious.  Whenever my ear hankers for Stravinsky, I never think of The Flood, but whenever I listen to it, I'm enraptured.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37814 on: April 14, 2021, 04:14:54 PM »
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37815 on: April 14, 2021, 04:26:50 PM »
Kinsella: Cello Concerto No. 1



A fine work that seems very well played here.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37816 on: April 14, 2021, 04:38:27 PM »
It's in my library, John. Twice now, as it's part of this set  8)

Ah yes, the Stravinsky set is where mine came from. 8) Good to hear you watched the documentary already. Have you seen the Tony Palmer film, Once at a Border? I should revisit this one as it’s been years since I’ve seen it.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37817 on: April 14, 2021, 06:02:54 PM »
Two works of great contrasts:

Strauss
Vier letzte Lieder
Cheryl Studer, soprano
Staatskapelle Dresden
Sinopoli




Berg
Der Wein
Deborah Voigt, soprano
Staatskapelle Dresden
Sinopoli


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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37818 on: April 14, 2021, 07:53:16 PM »
One last work for the night:

Prokofiev
Scythian Suite, Op. 20
Scottish National Orch.
Järvi


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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #37819 on: April 14, 2021, 09:41:49 PM »
Morning listening:



After the court of Philips II yesterday, this time the court of his father: Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor.

Motets and songs by Franco-Flemish composers Cornelius Canis and Nicolas Payen.