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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39280 on: April 30, 2021, 11:38:53 AM »
I must admit I rather agree with Mirror Image here.  The "original" version of Seejungfrau is actually a version never sanctioned by Zemlinsky and it adds little to our overall appreciation of the work.  Storgards is not as fluent or nuanced as Chailly or Beaumont I feel and the Sinfonietta offered on this disc is another spurious edition that adds nothing to our knowledge of the original work.  Useful for chamber orchestras to perform in concert in small venues but irrelevant on CD for me.  Since that pioneering Chailly disc Seejungfrau has been pretty well served on disc but I do find this new edition a bit of a red-herring.

Thanks for the support! ;) But, really, I’m just opining what I think and what I think is Die Seejunfrau is fine just the way it is and there’s a good reason why Zemlinsky revised it.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39281 on: April 30, 2021, 11:55:51 AM »
Miaskovsky: Symphony No. 17 Op. 41 [Svetlanov]





This one is an epic; mighty and weighty. Having said that, there are many lyrical passages that enliven the multi-faceted work. Drama, tension and excitement prevail through the excellent orchestration, and once again, the writing for the wind section is wonderfully effective. The second, slow movement really is a thing of beauty. That third movement is also very appealing and also a bit quirky.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39282 on: April 30, 2021, 11:58:46 AM »
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39283 on: April 30, 2021, 12:02:42 PM »
Miaskovsky: Symphony No. 17 Op. 41 [Svetlanov]





This one is an epic; mighty and weighty. Having said that, there are many lyrical passages that enliven the multi-faceted work. Drama, tension and excitement prevail through the excellent orchestration, and once again, the writing for the wind section is wonderfully effective. The second, slow movement really is a thing of beauty. That third movement is also very appealing and also a bit quirky.

I have been informed that the 17th symphony must be something special   :)

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39284 on: April 30, 2021, 12:05:57 PM »
I have been informed that the 17th symphony must be something special   :)

Yes, Jan, It is and I had also read that it was so before I heard it. But I do things the boring way with a new box set or conductor with a new cycle. I like to start at the beginning to see how things evolve and progress. So I waited patiently and I was not disappointed.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39285 on: April 30, 2021, 12:18:24 PM »
Staying on Mediterranean shores, but moving eastwards from Italy to Greece, with Nikos SkalkottasString Quartets No. 3 & No. 4 (played by the New Hellenic Quartet).

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39286 on: April 30, 2021, 12:27:38 PM »
Staying on Mediterranean shores, but moving eastwards from Italy to Greece, with Nikos SkalkottasString Quartets No. 3 & No. 4 (played by the New Hellenic Quartet).



What do you think about Skalkottas’ music, Rafael?
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39287 on: April 30, 2021, 12:37:19 PM »
What do you think about Skalkottas’ music, Rafael?
I think it’s very attractive, even if I don’t return to it that often. The alternation between his serious sounding Schoenbergism and his Greek folk style is quite fascinating actually, and to me it sounds like very well crafted music. In any case, my knowledge of it isn’t that intimate...
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39288 on: April 30, 2021, 12:42:56 PM »
I think it’s very attractive, even if I don’t return to it that often. The alternation between his serious sounding Schoenbergism and his Greek folk style is quite fascinating actually, and to me it sounds like very well crafted music. In any case, my knowledge of it isn’t that intimate...

Thanks for the feedback. I haven’t really heard anything of great distinction of his work yet, but I should plan a revisit at some point.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39289 on: April 30, 2021, 01:30:36 PM »
And from Greece, on to the Greek Stravinsky: Riccardo Chailly conducts the Concertgebouw Orchestra in Apollon Musagète.

From the not so old and not quite complete DG “Stravinsky Complete Edition”

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« Reply #39290 on: April 30, 2021, 03:13:28 PM »
And from Greece, on to the Greek Stravinsky: Riccardo Chailly conducts the Concertgebouw Orchestra in Apollon Musagète.

From the not so old and not quite complete DG “Stravinsky Complete Edition”



Lovely! Great performance, too.

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Schoenberg
A Survivor From Warsaw (Ein Überlebender Aus Warsaw) Op. 46
Variations for Orchestra, Op. 31
Five Pieces for Orchestra, Op. 16
Accompaniment To A Cinematographic Scene (Begleitmusik Zu Einer Lichtspielszene-Drohende Gefahr, Angst, Katastrophe) Op. 34

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A stunning tour-de-force of Schoenberg vocal/orchestral works. Today has been kind of a Second Viennese School kind of day, which is always a gratifying experience.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39291 on: April 30, 2021, 03:25:27 PM »
Yes, Jan, It is and I had also read that it was so before I heard it. But I do things the boring way with a new box set or conductor with a new cycle. I like to start at the beginning to see how things evolve and progress. So I waited patiently and I was not disappointed.

You don't need me to say this, but: Nothing wrong with that approach, Fergus.
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« Reply #39292 on: April 30, 2021, 03:25:49 PM »
Staying on Mediterranean shores, but moving eastwards from Italy to Greece, with Nikos SkalkottasString Quartets No. 3 & No. 4 (played by the New Hellenic Quartet).



Mmmmm.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39293 on: April 30, 2021, 03:48:52 PM »
I think it’s very attractive, even if I don’t return to it that often. The alternation between his serious sounding Schoenbergism and his Greek folk style is quite fascinating actually, and to me it sounds like very well crafted music. In any case, my knowledge of it isn’t that intimate...

From my experience, everything by Skalkottas is worth your time!

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39294 on: April 30, 2021, 03:50:51 PM »
Boris Papandopulo.

Piano Concerto No 3
Violin Concerto.


I've really enjoyed the CPO discs of his music that have come out so far.  He was a very prolific composer, so hopefully there will be much more.

TD: Frankel: Symphony No. 5



My previous encounter with Frankel was his film score for The Battle of the Bulge, which I found boring.  Probably works better in the context of the film.  This symphony however is quite engaging, lyrical and martial by turns and very well orchestrated.  It's also concise.  The recording is fantastic.


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« Reply #39295 on: April 30, 2021, 03:51:02 PM »
First-Listen Friday:

Myaskovsky
Silence, Op. 9 (1910)
Svetlanov & al.


The fact is, I listened to this four times today. It has shot straight to my second-favorite Myaskovsky score (after the a minor quartet, № 13, Op. 86)  Twenty minutes of wonderfully colorful and atmospheric music which engages the ear from start to end, which has not always been my own experience with the composer.

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First I've listened to thus recording.  I've kept it at arm's length, because of the cuts (which Lenny himself later restored in his recording with the CSO.) I don't say that I expected otherwise, but of course, unless I were to follow the score, I don't notice the cut variation[ s ] and putting that musical malfeasance out of mind, I find it in all other respects a fantastic account.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39296 on: April 30, 2021, 04:34:54 PM »
I think it’s very attractive, even if I don’t return to it that often. The alternation between his serious sounding Schoenbergism and his Greek folk style is quite fascinating actually, and to me it sounds like very well crafted music. In any case, my knowledge of it isn’t that intimate...

Fully in agreement with this, although I must say his "Schoenbergism" is sometimes too thorny for me. But that should be less of a problem to those who, unlike me, often find Schoenberg too thorny. But he's well worth hearing.
[Also Skalkottas had his own distinct voice and style, by no means an epigone of AS.]

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39297 on: April 30, 2021, 04:47:31 PM »
Now, for something completely different and from a Schoenberg student nonetheless...

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Harrison
Seven Pastorales
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39298 on: April 30, 2021, 05:03:17 PM »
Selections from this recording:



Exceptionally beautiful.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #39299 on: April 30, 2021, 05:28:18 PM »
Well, the fact that you’re enjoying should mean something, right? I’ve read Toch’s idiom is better suited in chamber music, but there’s much about the composer I don’t know.

It's true, but we all don't enjoy music in the same way, we prefer some composers and works over others, so I sometimes prefer to be more prudent, although with these works I can't hide my enthusiasm.
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