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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50080 on: September 24, 2021, 05:09:25 AM »
Stravinsky: Petrushka. Dorati/Minneapolis.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50081 on: September 24, 2021, 06:01:15 AM »

But there is a (serious) countertenor issue...  ???
That basically ruins the appeal of this recording  for me, which is a big pity.

On reflection I think you should give the Clemencic Binchois a wide berth.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50082 on: September 24, 2021, 06:03:03 AM »
I understand where you come from and agreee.

I’m just playing it again, it’s very good, and I noticed that my hero Sergio Vartolo is singing.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50083 on: September 24, 2021, 06:19:12 AM »
One of my first Dufay LPs. Rather opulent IIRC.

The singers in it are all people I don’t think I’ve come across elsewhere, but I think they do a great job. The main problem by contemporary standards is really the instrumental work. Clemencic asserts in the note for the sleeve that it was common practice to interpolate the mass ordinaries with improvised music on percussion and winds - he says “according to numerous contemporary reports” , but I’ve never seen any of these reports!

To be honest I think there are performances of this mass which are more my cup of tea - Giuseppe Maletto, for example, and maybe most of all the new one from Diabolus in Musica.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50085 on: September 24, 2021, 06:36:05 AM »
This afternoon's listening was:





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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50086 on: September 24, 2021, 06:47:41 AM »
Two pretty good works there, André. The original version of the 5th has the best music IMO, especially because of those "peculiar" last minutes.

Exactly ! That bizarre solo violin at the end is quite eye-popping. The revision is nowhere as original.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50087 on: September 24, 2021, 06:58:47 AM »
Digging up some oldies below - The King's Noyse have apparently a lot of recordings, but I just have the two below - enjoy 'The Garden of Melodies' but not as enthralled w/ the other one - any other suggestions?  The Mandel Quartet I believe has changed over the years, especially personnel - head up by Robert Mandel, who plays (and makes) hurdy-gurdies - check his website HERE for a lot of pics of his projects and also videos of him playing (may be available for purchase, not sure?); Fanfare reviews attached for those interested.  Dave :)

   

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50088 on: September 24, 2021, 09:17:29 AM »
Alfred Schnittke
Cello Concertos 1 and 2
Polyansky
Russian SSO
Chandos


My goodness. This sound world is extraordinary. Complex, moving, unusual, even unearthly. I find this fascinating.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50089 on: September 24, 2021, 09:19:49 AM »
On reflection I think you should give the Clemencic Binchois a wide berth.

I can see why!  :)

I’m just playing it again, it’s very good, and I noticed that my hero Sergio Vartolo is singing.

Never mind his conducting and keyboard playing, the guy cannot sing...  ???

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50090 on: September 24, 2021, 09:35:02 AM »


Couldn’t find the proper cover (mine is 4-disc and includes the VC with Oistrakh). Anyway, symphonies 3, 6 and 7. Comments in the Snowshoed Sibelius thread.

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50091 on: September 24, 2021, 10:53:35 AM »
Still more Poulenc! This time, the chamber music, on Spotify:



A delight from first note to last - Poulenc is one of those composers who I wish I could write like! I seem to remember these chamber works for winds popping up on student recitals when I was in college - they're not too long, wonderful to listen to, and a whole lot of fun! The clarinet sonata (not on this particular recording) was especially a favorite.

I'm familiar with the Naxos series, but apparently Brilliant Classics has their own complete Poulenc chamber music with Italian musicians. Has anyone heard that?
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50092 on: September 24, 2021, 11:20:43 AM »
Well, pulling out some more 'early music' from my compilation section - most of these discs were likely purchased pre-2000 - thought that I'd be culling out some but the music is quite wonderful and the performers excellent (many well know youngsters at the time of the recordings) - reviews attached for those interested.  Dave :)

   

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50093 on: September 24, 2021, 12:19:52 PM »
Superb playing and sound. Qobuz 24/44.1. He plays a Chris Maene Straight Strung Concert Grand piano--it certainly sounds clear and even. It even has a bonus work: Thoughts on Bach, which Daan Manneke composed for him. I might get the SACD version at some point. For more information about the piano: https://www.chrismaene.be/nl/the-straight-strung-grand-piano/


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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50094 on: September 24, 2021, 12:49:32 PM »
The Colin Davis Symphonies box, this time sampling his Beethoven

Symphonies: Colin Davis box
CD 5
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Symphony no. 6
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It's a mostly fine Pastoral - nothing much to complain about. There's some great woodwind playing. But is it really special? Memorable? I'm on the fence about it.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50095 on: September 24, 2021, 01:47:27 PM »


I know most people tend to be either Original Version Purists or Final Version Purists with Bruckner, but I think this might actually be the best compromise version of the Third Symphony—first, third and fourth movements of 1877, second movement of 1876. Keeps some of the Wagner quotes (and adds a new one, in the 1876 Adagio) and tightens up the structure without the severe 1877 Adagio cut that leaves the first movement unbalanced. Feel free to yell at me for this take, obviously.

(Of course someone has supposedly reconstructed the entire 1876 version, which may well be even better, but I haven't heard that.)

edit: I usually play Bruckner symphonies while working for the extra emotional charge, but abandoned that midway through the 1876 Adagio, and just sat and listened for the rest. Reconfirms my belief that the 1876 Adagio is a revelation. The Scherzo and Finale were also insanely exciting, although that's possibly because I had the volume turned up to maximum in order to drown out the incredibly loud air conditioner here; one misses some of the material cut from the 1873 finale, but the retention of most of the 1873 coda (instead of the drastically cut 1889 one) makes up for it.

(For those following along at home with their Nowak editions, the coda starts at figure Bb [bar 637 in 1873/bar 515 in 1877] or W [bar 393 in 1889]. Yes, the later editions have a lot of cuts. The most notable changes in the 1876 Adagio, compared to 1873, are a longer, more harmonically complex A theme, fuller orchestration throughout, and of course Tannhäuser.)
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50096 on: September 24, 2021, 02:35:18 PM »
Volume 2 of Poulenc's chamber music:



As much of a joy to listen to as Volume 1!

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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50097 on: September 24, 2021, 02:44:12 PM »


I know most people tend to be either Original Version Purists or Final Version Purists with Bruckner, but I think this might actually be the best compromise version of the Third Symphony—first, third and fourth movements of 1877, second movement of 1876. Keeps some of the Wagner quotes (and adds a new one, in the 1876 Adagio) and tightens up the structure without the severe 1877 Adagio cut that leaves the first movement unbalanced. Feel free to yell at me for this take, obviously.

(Of course someone has supposedly reconstructed the entire 1876 version, which may well be even better, but I haven't heard that.)

I'm not a "you have no business enjoying that version!" kind of guy.
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Re: What are you listening 2 now?
« Reply #50098 on: September 24, 2021, 04:21:31 PM »


Also available in this 2-disc set as a filler to Barshai’s transcriptions of some quartets:



To make a long story short: a perfectly legit transcription explicitly authorized by the composer, who gave it the opus no 141bis. It was first played by Derevianko and friends in 1972, and other performances followed during Shostakovich’s lifetime.

It is scored for piano trio with percussions (3 players) and celesta (played by the pianist). Basically the string parts are transcribed for violin and cello, the winds/brass ones for piano, and the percussion parts retained note for note. In this new chamber setting it loses some of its mystery and quirkiness while sometimes gaining in clarity (only 3 melodic parts to follow). While I miss the shattering power of the full orchestra in the finale’s development (one of the most terrifying moments in Shostakovich) I like the added immediacy in the quieter moments.

The performance is probably as good as the work will ever get
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