What are you listening 2 now?

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André

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 29, 2022, 04:57:00 AM
FWIW, I think much better of the Concerto, than the Requiem. I almost never return to the latter, e.g.

I'll have the occasion to revise my opinion (or not) as another version is on its way from JPC.  :)

TheGSMoeller

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on April 29, 2022, 04:57:00 AM
FWIW, I think much better of the Concerto, than the Requiem. I almost never return to the latter, e.g.

I do admit I always chuckle a bit when the Requiem's Credo attempts to turns into a rock song.   

But no chuckling with the concerto, it's one of my favorite works for choir.

Florestan

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foxandpeng

Quote from: Spotted Horses on April 28, 2022, 07:20:09 PM
I'm not sure what was so articulate about my comments. I feel like I may be being graded on a curve. :)

You are always articulate. Sometimes in brevity and sometimes in more detail. I value your opinion in either case.
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foxandpeng

Quote from: Spotted Horses on April 28, 2022, 07:26:33 PM
I listened to this years and years ago and vaguely remember coming the a similar conclusion, that the third symphony was more successful than the Manhattan Trilogy, which seemed more foggy. Generally I connect better with composers with an acerbic style (Malipiero, Bacewicz, Roussel, Honegger) than the spiritualists.

Revisiting the Manhattan Trilogy three or four times today has given me a greater appreciation for the work. I think you are quite correct about #3 being the more successful piece (it is a fine symphony in whatever coupling), but repeat plays definitely lead to increased enjoyment.

As far as #3 is concerned, I don't think there is a huge amount to choose between Pommer and Segerstam. Not yet, anyway. I see the Bruckner comparison, though.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Spotted Horses

Quote from: foxandpeng on April 29, 2022, 06:06:04 AM
You are always articulate. Sometimes in brevity and sometimes in more detail. I value your opinion in either case.

Thank you for the kind words!

I moved on to the second symphony of Rawsthorne, subtitled the pastorale.



The first movement was just wonderful, a pastoral mood, then non-pastoral, angular melodies start to creep in. An engaging slow movement, a country dance scherzo. The finale started with just a sublime sound and, to my utter disbelief, the caterwauling of a soprano vocalist. Apparently the finale is the setting of some obscure poem about summer. Huh? Big letdown. I really have to make a habit of reading the booklet before putting something on. :)

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foxandpeng

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Quote from: Spotted Horses on April 29, 2022, 06:17:01 AM
Thank you for the kind words!

I moved on to the second symphony of Rawsthorne, subtitled the pastorale.



The first movement was just wonderful, a pastoral mood, then non-pastoral, angular melodies start to creep in. An engaging slow movement, a country dance scherzo. The finale started with just a sublime sound and, to my utter disbelief, the caterwauling of a soprano vocalist. Apparently the finale is the setting of some obscure poem about summer. Huh? Big letdown. I really have to make a habit of reading the booklet before putting something on. :)

Haha. I share your lack of love for vocalists as a general principle, but can cope with it here due to its brevity. I think #2 is my current high point in the Rawsthorne symphonies, so in the same way that I kind of get the soprano parts in RVW's #7, I can live with it here too. On the whole, I rate #2 highly.

PS.... 'caterwauling' ... yes.
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

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Continuing on with the Isang Yun box set:

Naui Dang, Naui Minjokiyo! (My Land, My People!)
Myung-Sil Kim - soprano, Young-Ok Kim - contralto, Sun-Chai Pak - tenor
State Symphony Orchestra of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Byung-Hwa Kim



Cato

Quote from: Cato on April 28, 2022, 03:23:25 PM
WOW!  This page (3420) has some great stuff!

I have found a few minutes to check in: Life is just too full right now!  For one thing, a whirlwind of scenes for my novel-in-progress keeps me occupied...along with my Latin courses and a good number of other duties!

Not on a CD, here is the incredible performance by the Chicago Symphony conducted by Pierre Boulez of the Mahler Symphony VII.  It is from 2010: I heard the last 3 movements back then, and I heard how Boulez brought out the Third Movement's future connection to Anton Webern, whose Passacaglia was also on the program.

And a new 5-star CD from Toccata:







Allow me to list the works on the Tcherepnin 3 Generations CD:

Alexander Tcherepnin: Violin Sonata in F major op. 14; Romanze WoO for Violin & Piano; Elegie op. 43 for Violin & Piano

Nikolai Tcherepnin: Poème lyrique op. 9 for Violin & Piano; Andante & Finale op. posth. for Violin & Piano

Ivan Tcherepnin: Pensamiento for Flute & Piano; Cadenzas in Transition for Flute, Clarinet, Piano


Chamber music has usually not been of much interest to me, but in recent years my tastes have changed: this CD I am heartily recommending.

Under 3 minutes long, the Romanze of Alexander Tcherepnin I wanted to continue!  All the works by his father and son are highly intriguing: Ivan's especially gets some interesting soounds from the Flute and Clarinet.



This may be of interest:

https://toccataclassics.com/three-generations-of-tcherepnins/

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Spotted Horses

Quote from: foxandpeng on April 29, 2022, 06:34:36 AM
Haha. I share your lack of love for vocalists as a general principle, but can cope with it here due to its brevity. I think #2 is my current high point in the Rawsthorne symphonies, so in the same way that I kind of get the soprano parts in RVW's #7, I can live with it here too. On the whole, I rate #2 highly.

PS.... 'caterwauling' ... yes.

I had forgotten about those vocal parts in RVW's seventh. I tend to focus on the wind machine.  :laugh:

The vocal part in RVW 3rd symphony works fine for me, the voice is treated as another instrument in the orchestra. An orchestral song setting is one of the very few classical genres that I find utterly without appeal.

DavidW

V-L SQs first two in the set.  Thanks to Qobuz' lousy tagging I have no idea which ones they are.  Will finish listening to them later.  I haven't heard these string quartets in awhile.



And then back to Bach organ works (Goode vol. 7 like before).

Que


Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Traverso

Quote from: Que on April 29, 2022, 07:02:52 AM
Still my golden standard!  :)

A fine recording it is....I have only Chorzempa as an alternative but  Koopman is the finest ... :)

As far as Bach is concerned Im 'becoming less enthusiastic, but in Handel he is without a doubt the ideal interpreter.

Roasted Swan


Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy