What are you listening 2 now?

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Mandryka

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I'm asking myself whether I want to go down a Bach passions rabbit hole. If I did, it would be a case of akrasia I think.

How can this music retain so much power after all that has changed over the past 300 years? That is the big question IMO.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Roasted Swan

Quote from: Mandryka on May 06, 2024, 09:23:13 AM


I'm asking myself whether I want to go down a Bach passions rabbit hole. If I did, it would be a case of akrasia I think.

How can this music retain so much power after all that has changed over the past 300 years? That is the big question IMO.

Excellent question - I have no answer!!!  All I do know is that as someone who has little/no religious faith I find myself always engaged/moved/inspired as if I did.  Somehow the power and the conviction carries me through.  I have always enjoyed religious buildings if not what they (literally) stand for and certainly hearing this music in such a building is a moving experience.  Sometimes I wish I was religious - how amazing must it be then........!?!?

Linz

Bruckner Symphony No. 3 in D Minor, SWR \Konxerhau Freiburg, Hans Zender

Mandryka

#110083
Quote from: Roasted Swan on May 06, 2024, 10:02:46 AMExcellent question - I have no answer!!!  All I do know is that as someone who has little/no religious faith I find myself always engaged/moved/inspired as if I did.  Somehow the power and the conviction carries me through.  I have always enjoyed religious buildings if not what they (literally) stand for and certainly hearing this music in such a building is a moving experience.  Sometimes I wish I was religious - how amazing must it be then........!?!?

It's something specific to the Bach approach in these passions I think. Other baroque religious music, lovely though it is, doesn't seem to tell the religious ideas to us now as powerfully as the Bach passions.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Roasted Swan

Quote from: Mandryka on May 06, 2024, 10:35:06 AMIt's something specific to the Bach approach in these passions I think. Other baroque religious music, lovely though it is, doesn't seem to tell the religious ideas to us now as powerfully as the Bach passions.

My knowledge of baroque settings of the Passion apart from Bach is very limited - can you elaborate or suggest who gets closest to Bach (does anyone?!)

Spotted Horses

Quote from: Mandryka on May 06, 2024, 09:23:13 AMHow can this music retain so much power after all that has changed over the past 300 years? That is the big question IMO.

The passions express human longings and emotions, which people may associate with Jesus, or with Taylor Swift, depending on their mindset.
There are simply two kinds of music, good music and the other kind. - Duke Ellington

Karl Henning

Quote from: Mandryka on May 06, 2024, 09:23:13 AMHow can this music retain so much power after all that has changed over the past 300 years? That is the big question IMO.
The power of art.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Mandryka

Quote from: Spotted Horses on May 06, 2024, 10:50:23 AMThe passions express human longings and emotions, which people may associate with Jesus, or with Taylor Swift, depending on their mindset.

They do that with the arias I guess. There's something about the way the arias combine with other genres/forms/textures (not sure of the word!) which makes the Bach passions stand out.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Karl Henning

Quote from: Mandryka on May 06, 2024, 10:35:06 AMIt's something specific to the Bach approach in these passions I think. Other baroque religious music, lovely though it is, doesn't seem to tell the religious ideas to us now as powerfully as the Bach passions.
My initial reply was arguably glib. There's certainly some mystery in what is needed to create music so that it endures apparently timelessly.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Karl Henning

Quote from: VonStupp on March 10, 2024, 11:21:52 AMDmitri Shostakovich
October, op. 131

I'm in! First I've listened to this performance.

Royal Philharmonic
Vladimir Ashkenazy
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: VonStupp on April 08, 2024, 03:12:57 PMJohan de Meij
Symphony 1 'The Lord of the Rings'


And it's Maiden-Listen Monday!

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

brewski

This recital livestreamed yesterday from Wigmore Hall was a joy. Cédric Tiberghien was new to me, as well as to some friends, so we made it an afternoon (with margaritas for Cinco de Mayo).

I had never heard any of the youthful Beethoven variations (WoO, nos. 66, 71, 72, and 73) and if they aren't worth endless rehearings, they are certainly worth a listen. Interwoven came selections from Kurtág's Játékok and the complete Ligeti Musica ricercata. Bach's Aria variata BWV989 made an impressive finale to what one friend described as "a bonkers program."


-Bruce
"I set down a beautiful chord on paper—and suddenly it rusts."
—Alfred Schnittke (1934-1998)

Lisztianwagner

Sergei Prokofiev
Piano Sonata No.7
Piano Sonata No.9

Pianist: Vladimir Ovchinnikov


"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Karl Henning

Quote from: Karl Henning on May 06, 2024, 11:33:53 AMAnd it's Maiden-Listen Monday!



The Wind Ensemble is the original. This is an arrangement for orchestra by Henk de Vlieger. I don't know why I took so long to listen to it, unless it is that I still hoped to compose a LOTR symphony myself and didn't want the external input. Perhaps now with the Shore soundtrack packaged as a symphony, there is no point in my supplying something for which there is no demand. The de Meij piece is superb, the Gollum scherzo especially. While obviously Shore's soundtrack suits the movies very nicely, I think I like de Meij's music better still.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Linz

Fauré Requiem, Monteverdi Choir, Orchestre Révolutionnsire et Romantique, John Eliot Gardiner

SonicMan46

#110096
Beethoven's Piano Trios - the three groups below in my collection; Orkis in the Castle Trio on a fortepiano; the other two trios on MIs - attached is a listing of Ludwig's works for 'Piano Trios', most with Op. numbers but a few without - I've put w/ superscripts which works are performed by each trio, obviously much less with the period recording - the 5-disc sets do virtually all of the listed works, plus several other transcriptions (LINK to LVB's composition) - reviews of the MI performances attached for those interested - not finding much else with period instruments on perusing Amazon.  Dave :)


Que



Sonatas nos. 15, 16 & 17.

AnotherSpin


ultralinear

Quote from: brewski on May 06, 2024, 11:36:16 AMThis recital livestreamed yesterday from Wigmore Hall was a joy. Cédric Tiberghien was new to me, as well as to some friends, so we made it an afternoon (with margaritas for Cinco de Mayo).

I had never heard any of the youthful Beethoven variations (WoO, nos. 66, 71, 72, and 73) and if they aren't worth endless rehearings, they are certainly worth a listen. Interwoven came selections from Kurtág's Játékok and the complete Ligeti Musica ricercata. Bach's Aria variata BWV989 made an impressive finale to what one friend described as "a bonkers program."

-Bruce

I understand he has something of an obsession both with sets of variations in general and Beethoven in particular, so I'm really looking forward to later this year when he'll be playing the Diabellis. :)