Wandelweiser and Another Timbre

[Mandryka]

I can't find where it was you wrote it (I'm not here often) but somewhere you or someone else asked if we found the Wolff recording a romantic or academic work? (sorry if I am paraphrasing). For me personally, having spent many years with the Wolff disc and having heard the same musicians perform the piece live, its an intensely charged, intimately emotive work. I'm not sure if the word romantic is necessarily the correct one to use, but its far from an academic piece. The music is incredibly sensual, engaging and captivating. It just requires a certain approach to listening. I strongly would urge anyone go and attend a concert of this area of music ahead of listening to it on CD. So much comes from the room with many of these pieces.

I can imagine it's great fun to experience live

https://www.youtube.com/v/KmrDHwFDUQA

[vers la flamme]

https://www.youtube.com/v/B4QbpTFjJ34

What do you all think of this? Judging by the few youtube comments, it appears to be getting a mixed response. I like it. I like much of what I've heard from Frey. Probably an important composer in our time. I would like to hear more of his work.

I find it difficult to wrap my head around the idea of the Wandelweiser collective. Aren't there about 20 affiliates? Do they all write similarly quiet, droning music? To those here who are interested, who are some of the other names that are worth exploring?

edit: apparently, I still don't know how to embed videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4QbpTFjJ34

[Mandryka]

Irene Kurka has a lovely voice. There are two very special songs on the above CD by Antoine Beuger, Chants de passage and Un lieu pour faire sonner l'éternité.

[Mandryka]

https://www.youtube.com/v/FZQWLLdQhKU&ab_channel=GMEACNCMAlbi

2019 piece by Frey, sounds good to me!

[Mandryka]

I'm just going to post images of music which has  really impressed me over the past few months, starting with Dark Heart on this one



http://www.anothertimbre.com/olsendarkheart.html

and Circular Music 6 on this one



https://www.cafeoto.co.uk/shop/jurg-frey-ephemeral-constructions/

[Mandryka]

http://www.anothertimbre.com/stainballads.html

Rarely, you come across a composer who is so off the wall  that you have to reassess what's possible with music. Well Martin Arnold isn't that, but he's close. This CD, which is quite far form the Another Timbre formula of quiet music with a lot of silence,  though it's certainly not argument music à la Beethoven. It is well worth hearing for those who have an open mind, even if you find yourself thinking "You can't do that! It's not allowed. That's not music!"

Martin Arnold, IMO, is so far from what the establishment consider quality in music, that he's almost en example of outsider art.