Philistine listener of classical music in your eyes?

[Carlo Gesualdo]

Well, an intelligent answer to this is my rational thinking if you don't like the follower composers and you're into renaissance music than you are a Philistine a fraud to aficionados of genre or a blatant impostor (lol). It bottles down to the following names:

Sigismondo D'India (is a true master of arte del madrigali)
Giaches de Wert (I admit he my favourite of the lot, madrigals & motets splendour, this doesn't get better than this)
Carlo Gesualdo (madrigal liber 3 & 4 for me)

- I had to point that out that since people tend to listen to 5 & 6 more, and very fewer also are more interest in his first three liber, the 1 & 3
or cruelly ignored by noobs and hipsters.
Luzzasco Luzzaschi (which is overlooked as a ''second violon'' = french expression for silver medalist winner, to bronze( if taken in perspective.

Philippe Verdelot (grandiose, vive la France)

Adrian Willaert (credential Franco-Flemish god size man in music for madrigals and motets).

Roland de Lassus (spiritual madrigals)

Monteverdi prior to becoming a full time baroque composer).

Gombert motets are a monolith of epic complexity & refined harmony, Josquin motets are in the same league has Leonardo's da Vinci genie, for inventing ancient lore Serialism harmonics, like Qui Habitat, just like Ockeghem out of this world inventive Missa, But let's not forget Dufay mesmerizing works.
What about Lambert de Sayve folks, I have his two albums(not aware) there more but this is so splendid his work ornamented by instrument make it better than the best Sorbet dairy of dreams.

For instrumental music how about John Dowland's incredible lute or Lawes pretty Theorbos. But for the instrumental fundamental to be followed in post 2, this was only short parenthesis on instrumental music here and mostly vocal music in this post precisions needed. I can't write the crucial composers all of them you need to hear, in order to be some fake devotees of classical music, I have taken renaissance because this is my credo, I hope you enjoy this post, and the structure is fine whit you, this is English, not Cantonese(joke). Sorry for syntax I'm not exactly Shakespeare of ink and feather.Have a nice day

[dissily Mordentroge]

What is a ' fake devotees of classical music'?

[Carlo Gesualdo]

A Fake classical devotee would be love whiteout exhaustive search for passionated music per.s

[Gurn Blanston]

A Fake classical devotee would be love whiteout exhaustive search for passionated music per.s

So one must have listened to everything before one can judge a favorite?

[dissily Mordentroge]

So one must have listened to everything before one can judge a favorite?

Even if we take into account only the number of known classical compositions you could listen all day to them for 100 years and not get to the end. When it comes to all the recorded versions the task is mind boggling.

[some guy]

OK, overlooking the elephant in the room, which seems to be what we do, now (even when the OP says, in effect "Hey!! Look at this enormous elephant in the room!!"), I have some questions: Once you have identified which listeners are Philistines, what have you got? Is your own listening improved somehow with this information? Do you enjoy music more, yourself?

I don't see that establishing whether or not someone else is a good listener or not gets you anything useful at all.

[dissily Mordentroge]

OK, overlooking the elephant in the room, which seems to be what we do, now (even when the OP says, in effect "Hey!! Look at this enormous elephant in the room!!"), I have some questions: Once you have identified which listeners are Philistines, what have you got? Is your own listening improved somehow with this information? Do you enjoy music more, yourself?

I don't see that establishing whether or not someone else is a good listener or not gets you anything useful at all.

Made somewhat of a difference at the first performance of 'Le Sacre de Printemps'

[Mandryka]

Well, an intelligent answer to this is my rational thinking if you don't like the follower composers and you're into renaissance music than you are a Philistine a fraud to aficionados of genre or a blatant impostor (lol). It bottles down to the following names:

There's too much emphasis on liking. Whether I like a bit of music is very variable. And I have never liked Willaert motets much, for example. Nothing follows, least of all that I'm a fraud or a philistine, I can still appreciate Willaert's importance in the history of the thing, his innovations etc. I wish people would just shut up about what they like and keep it too themselves, it's a bit like talking about the state of their digestion - anyone who thinks what they like is important enough to mention on a site like this is full of themselves.

[dissily Mordentroge]

There's too much emphasis on liking. Whether I like a bit of music is very variable. And I have never liked Willaert motets much, for example. Nothing follows, least of all that I'm a fraud or a philistine, I can still appreciate Willaert's importance in the history of the thing, his innovations etc. I wish people would just shut up about what they like and keep it too themselves, it's a bit like talking about the state of their digestion - anyone who thinks what they like is important enough to mention on a site like this is full of themselves.

If talk about what people liked ceased the forum would almost fall silent.

[Marc]

If talk about what people liked ceased the forum would almost fall silent.

Not at all, we're very well able to talk about what we dislike.

[dissily Mordentroge]

Not at all, we're very well able to talk about what we dislike.

No use asking for recommendations then.

[Mandryka]

If talk about what people liked ceased the forum would almost fall silent.

Silence is golden

[Marc]

No use asking for recommendations then.

Not entirely.
Just change the subject a bit.

New thread:
Which recordings should 'we' avoid? Please recommend.

My first choice: Rachmaninov's Vespers / Finnish National Opera Chorus / Söderström (Naxos).
'Cause it's a SCREAM.

[prémont]

Not at all, we're very well able to talk about what we dislike.

[DaveF]

And I have never liked Willaert motets much, for example. Nothing follows, least of all that I'm a fraud or a philistine...

To have heard of Willaert proves you're not a philistine - although in fact you may not really have heard of him, in which case you're a fraud   But no, concision was not really one of Maestro Adriano's virtues, was it?

[Mandryka]

To have heard of Willaert proves you're not a philistine - although in fact you may not really have heard of him, in which case you're a fraud   But no, concision was not really one of Maestro Adriano's virtues, was it?

I've got quite a serious book about the Philistines. Anyway, they had a very sophisticated culture, the idea that the Philistines were philistines is just a Zionist lie.

[some guy]

I've got quite a serious book about the Philistines. Anyway, they had a very sophisticated culture, the idea that the Philistines were philistines is just a Zionist lie.

Learning about this was one of my first experiences with the idea that history could be false as well as true. The so-called Dark Ages was another.

[ChopinBroccoli]

Not at all, we're very well able to talk about what we dislike.

A lot of people seem to get very defensive here, IMO