What are your favorite Sinfoniettas?

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kyjo

Strangely enough, I remember being quite underwhelmed by Prokofiev's early Sinfonietta. Perhaps I should give it another chance?
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Symphonic Addict

Yes, you should! Even for its size and length, it's a splendid and charming work with the Prokofiev stamp on it.
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vandermolen

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on March 20, 2022, 07:48:26 PM
Yes, you should! Even for its size and length, it's a splendid and charming work with the Prokofiev stamp on it.
+1
I first came across it in the EMI LP box set of Muti's recording of 'Ivan the Terrible'.
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kyjo

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on March 20, 2022, 07:48:26 PM
Yes, you should! Even for its size and length, it's a splendid and charming work with the Prokofiev stamp on it.

Good to know, Cesar! Perhaps I just wasn't in the right mood the day I listened to it. I should enjoy it since Prokofiev is one of my favorite composers.
"Music is enough for a lifetime, but a lifetime is not enough for music" - Sergei Rachmaninoff

Symphonic Addict

Just was revisiting Martinu's Sinfonietta Giocosa. What a stunning piece. More than adequate to lift your spirits. It actually is a piano concerto in all but name. The role of that instrument is dominant through the work.

I seem to detect a regular rhythmic pattern in many of Martinu's works that makes me think he wrote the same piece over and over again. However, he managed to be so inventive that it doesn't matter in the end. I love his music.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on May 10, 2022, 09:21:31 PM
Just was revisiting Martinu's Sinfonietta Giocosa. What a stunning piece. More than adequate to lift your spirits. It actually is a piano concerto in all but name. The role of that instrument is dominant through the work.

I seem to detect a regular rhythmic pattern in many of Martinu's works that makes me think he wrote the same piece over and over again. However, he managed to be so inventive that it doesn't matter in the end. I love his music.

The blessing/curse of Martinů is the fact that he composed everything in his head and put it directly to paper. No editing was evolved. He never went back and re-thought a piece. Once it was finished, that's it. I believe this is pretty much the same for Villa-Lobos and Milhaud. But I find these particular composers a well of inspiration and constant source of pleasure despite each of their shortcomings, which, in this case, it would be scaling back on the workload and putting a bit more thought into some of the works before they're completed and how to make them different from the previous composition.

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 10, 2022, 09:34:02 PM
The blessing/curse of Martinů is the fact that he composed everything in his head and put it directly to paper. No editing was evolved. He never went back and re-thought a piece. Once it was finished, that's it. I believe this is pretty much the same for Villa-Lobos and Milhaud. But I find these particular composers a well of inspiration and constant source of pleasure despite each of their shortcomings, which, in this case, it would be scaling back on the workload and putting a bit more thought into some of the works before they're completed and how to make them different from the previous composition.

That is an interesting curiosity I didn't know. No doubts he was a genuine genius.

And yes, those three composers were extremely prolific, but even so, their musical qualities are so exceptional and consistent that I would never get bored by listening to their music.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Brian

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on May 10, 2022, 09:21:31 PM
I seem to detect a regular rhythmic pattern in many of Martinu's works that makes me think he wrote the same piece over and over again. However, he managed to be so inventive that it doesn't matter in the end. I love his music.
There are some regular rhythms and melodic patterns, too (a long note, then a short different note a third or fifth down, then back to the previous longer one again). To me, it makes the first five symphonies, in particular, feel like a TV series where your favorite characters get put into different situations.

Mirror Image

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on May 10, 2022, 09:42:51 PM
That is an interesting curiosity I didn't know. No doubts he was a genuine genius.

And yes, those three composers were extremely prolific, but even so, their musical qualities are so exceptional and consistent that I would never get bored by listening to their music.

You and I are of the same mind in this regard. 8)

Lisztianwagner

Zemlinsky - Sinfonietta Op. 23
Janáček - Sinfonietta
Britten - Sinfonietta Op. 1
Korngold - Sinfonietta in B Major
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Mirror Image

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on May 11, 2022, 03:25:27 PM
Zemlinsky - Sinfonietta Op. 23
Janáček - Sinfonietta
Britten - Sinfonietta Op. 1
Korngold - Sinfonietta in B Major

Nice list! I should revisit the Britten, Korngold and Zemlinsky.

Lisztianwagner

Quote from: Mirror Image on May 11, 2022, 04:34:21 PM
Nice list! I should revisit the Britten, Korngold and Zemlinsky.

Instead I have to try Martinů's Sinfonietta Giocosa many of you mentioned, because I don' t know that composition. I listened to the Zemlinsky yesterday for the first time and it was absolutely brilliant.
"You cannot expect the Form before the Idea, for they will come into being together." - Arnold Schönberg

Mirror Image

Quote from: Lisztianwagner on May 12, 2022, 12:50:11 AM
Instead I have to try Martinů's Sinfonietta Giocosa many of you mentioned, because I don' t know that composition. I listened to the Zemlinsky yesterday for the first time and it was absolutely brilliant.

So glad you've been enjoying Zemlinsky's music lately. 8)

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Brian on May 11, 2022, 06:44:49 AM
There are some regular rhythms and melodic patterns, too (a long note, then a short different note a third or fifth down, then back to the previous longer one again). To me, it makes the first five symphonies, in particular, feel like a TV series where your favorite characters get put into different situations.

Since I'm not a musician, there are other elements in the music I can't put into words, but what you say makes sense to me.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Symphonic Addict

The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Olias

Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges - Sinfonietta #2

I just arranged a youth orchestra version of the finale and got to know the work really well.  Only 8 minutes long but there's a lot in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PSX9PizVZU&list=PLDBnumuuGWldUxnNqWXViVC8tpsissPZn&index=3


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