Classical composers that were murdered through the ages

[Carlo Gesualdo]

Let's all stare in an abyss deep end, shawl we hmm, some people rest in peace die in there sleep while others die by the ''sword''.

Adémar de Chabbanes (most probably died of unnatural death in holy land), in the year 1034. So I guess it was a dangerous time to be Christian?

Jehan Lescurel (kill because the king was a raisin head= no judgement at all like an ''Herode'' of is era, he decided to kill everyone who had this name based on accusation on a bandit that had same name sexual offender of women's, the king wanted to be certain this guy was dead and order mass killing of Jehan Lescurel in the kingdom who spurt this quite popular name at that time.)

My first example, Poor Claude Goudimel got the axe in catholic France the era of queen Margot. Then again I had it's was not a fair time to be protestant in France back in this era

What about the unlucky classical composers that got slaughter?

Trough the ages and times?
Perhaps morbid curiosity led me to post this post.

What about ww2 classical composer that got killed during world war 2 there is Webern, that got mistaken for a nazi ss or something and snipe, what about other composers trough history whit an unlucky faith they did not die peacefully.

Just thought folks just wondering?
 

[Mirror Image]

There were a lot of composers murdered by the Nazis and many of them in concentration camps. A few examples: Schulhoff, Ullmann, Klein, Krása, among others.

[Biffo]

Alberic Magnard died defending his house against invading German troops in 1914; he shot and killed one soldier but the house caught fire and he died in the conflagration. I can't really think of any others though numerous composers were killed in action in both World Wars.

[Mandryka]

John Forest (c16) was grilled alive. Very good music, I posted a little discography of his music somewhere.

[Mandryka]

Claude Vivier was killed by a prostitute he picked up in Paris.

[Mandryka]

Mozart was slowly poisoned by Salieri out of jealousy.

[Marc]

Mozart was slowly poisoned by Salieri out of jealousy.

Tell us more.

[Gurn Blanston]

Mozart was slowly poisoned by Salieri out of jealousy.

I doubt that.

[Wanderer]

... numerous composers were killed in action in both World Wars.

Off the top of my head, Rudi Stephan.

[Wanderer]

I doubt that.

Why? Haven't you seen the film?  0:)

[pjme]

I doubt that.

Where did the poison story come from, and how did it become attached to Salieri? Mozart himself may have been the one to set it in motion. On his deathbed, he supposedly said, "Surely I have been given poison! I cannot let go of this thought." He probably did not suspect Salieri, who no longer agitated him, but suspicions smoldered in the family circle. Mozart's paranoia thus reached beyond the grave.

The early nineteenth century saw the rise of nationalism in German-speaking countries. Salieri was typecast as a foreign interloper, an Italian intrigant—a pattern already visible in Leopold Mozart's letters to his son. Herrmann perceptively points out the role that nationalism played in the marginalization of Salieri's reputation: "The cosmopolitan composer, fluent in Italian, German and French and artistically significant in all three linguistic areas, could not be fully absorbed in any European nation. With the emergence of nation-states, the historical Salieri gradually became a homeless figure, and his great artistic and social merits eventually fell into oblivion." A similar fate would befall Salieri's pupil Giacomo Meyerbeer, another pan-European artist, who receded from view after achieving global fame, in the mid-nineteenth century.

The folktale of Mozart and Salieri has even deeper roots. It is a variation on the mythic duality of Abel and Cain, or of the Prodigal Son and his brother: the favored son versus the dutiful one, the rule-breaker versus the conformist. That polarity drew the attention of Pushkin, who has his humorless, embittered Salieri say:

Where, where is rightness? when the sacred gift,
Immortal genius, comes not in reward
For fervent love, for total self-rejection,
For work and for exertion and for prayers,
But casts its light upon a madman's head,
An idle loafer's brow . . . O Mozart, Mozart!

And so Salieri drops poison in Mozart's glass of wine. Shaffer's "Amadeus" adopts the same dynamic, although there the elderly, half-demented Salieri merely believes that he has killed Mozart—a self-accusatory metaphor for his poisonous intent.

Source: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/06/03/antonio-salieris-revenge

[Florestan]

Stabbed to death: Alessandro Stradella, Jean-Marie Leclair.

[some guy]

I must say, if I'm going to be murdered, I'd rather it were fairly quick. To be murdered through ages--too cruel.

[Mandryka]

Let me die a youngman's death
not a clean and inbetween
the sheets holywater death
not a famous-last-words
peaceful out of breath death

When I'm 73
and in constant good tumour
may I be mown down at dawn
by a bright red sports car
on my way home
from an allnight party

Or when I'm 91
with silver hair
and sitting in a barber's chair
may rival gangsters
with hamfisted tommyguns burst in
and give me a short back and insides

Or when I'm 104
and banned from the Cavern
may my mistress
catching me in bed with her daughter
and fearing for her son
cut me up into little pieces
and throw away every piece but one

Let me die a youngman's death
not a free from sin tiptoe in
candle wax and waning death
not a curtains drawn by angels borne
'what a nice way to go' death

[Ken B]

John Lennon

[DaveF]

Let me die a youngman's death..

Great poem - I especially like the last line of the penultimate stanza.  And it was another Roger who said "Hope I die before I get old" - come on, you Rogers, get on with it.

For Rap artists it seems like the normal way to go, although whether they should be considered composers, or indeed would want to be, is a question.

[steve ridgway]

For Rap artists it seems like the normal way to go, although whether they should be considered composers, or indeed would want to be, is a question.

Rap artists would perhaps consider themselves more as poets. It must be time one of them got the Nobel Prize For Literature .

[Wanderer]

To be murdered through ages--too cruel.

But think of the movie rights!

[Wanderer]

Jean-Marie Leclair.

...and, quite possibly, by kin, no less. Such a shame.

[Christo]

Exceptionally few composers were murdered through ages, not even Boulez (though some were willing) as most were murdered just once, I think Claude Vivier springs to mind and Anton Webern (who was killed, not murdered). The most cruel murders were on those transported to places like Auschwitz or Treblinka, e.g. Hans Krás, Erwin Schulhoff, Pavel Haas, Gideon Klein, Leo Smit.