Conductor Identification

[SurprisedByBeauty]

Does anyone know who this conductor is?

I know only this: The picture was taken between 1958 and 1964.

And he has conducted the Vienna Singverein -- and therefore most probably -- the Vienna Philharmonic.

All guesses (and dead-on identifications) much appreciated!

[Papy Oli]

Looks a bit like him ?

https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/news-photo/conductor-and-member-of-the-vienna-philharmonic-orchestra-news-photo/503014573

[SurprisedByBeauty]

Looks a bit like him ?

https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/news-photo/conductor-and-member-of-the-vienna-philharmonic-orchestra-news-photo/503014573

A wee bit, but no match. Faltl has a much bigger head. Our mystery conductor... I don't want to get into the dastardly anti-science of physiognomy too much, but he looks Eastern or Southern Austrian "at his most Western". Maybe Hungarian. Then again, he might just as well be French, so what do I know. But those sad eyes!

When I put his image in at Getty Images search, I get this, as the no.2 result:

https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/photo/beautiful-woman-with-stylish-hairstyle-royalty-free-image/486949044

In a way, it puts my mind at ease as regards the ease (or lack thereof) that computers still have, with facial reckognition.

[Biffo]

The Wiener Singverein isn't very helpful. It gives a long list of all its past conductors but you have to click on each one to find dates and then search elsewhere for an image. I gave up after checking a few likely suspects.

[SurprisedByBeauty]

The Wiener Singverein isn't very helpful. It gives a long list of all its past conductors but you have to click on each one to find dates and then search elsewhere for an image. I gave up after checking a few likely suspects.

Yes, they are not helpful yet... they're in the process of digitizing their archive. It's for them that I ask. 

I also don't think he's on their list. I just went through it all... and didn't find a match.

[Papy Oli]

A wee bit, but no match. Faltl has a much bigger head. Our mystery conductor... I don't want to get into the dastardly anti-science of physiognomy too much, but he looks Eastern or Southern Austrian "at his most Western". Maybe Hungarian. Then again, he might just as well be French, so what do I know. But those sad eyes!

Reverse image search only gave me "gentleman" as a result... I prefer yours   

i found the close getty pic by searching vienna conductors 1960...but no other luck beyond this one.

[Brian]

I don't know the answer but I'm fascinated by this thread!

[SurprisedByBeauty]

There's a hint of Barbirolli in this guy... but not enough.

He looks not tall, curiously enough.

[Florestan]

Where did you get the picture?

Must be a guy born around 1900.

[SurprisedByBeauty]

Where did you get the picture?

Must be a guy born around 1900.

The picture is from the Archives of the Singverein.

[Florestan]

The picture is from the Archives of the Singverein.

A single photo of a guy in the Archives of the Singverein, without any reference whatsoever. Looks like a mystery novel. 

[SurprisedByBeauty]

A single photo of a guy in the Archives of the Singverein, without any reference whatsoever. Looks like a mystery novel. 

Well, we have the years. And he may have conducted the Singverein -- I'd have assumed so, until I couldn't find this conductor amid my search of those conductors listed on their website. (I might have failed to check one or two, of course... it he may not have been listed.) But yes, apparently there aren't any other references. He's holding a baton, though... that suggests legitimacy, at least. :-)

[Florestan]

Like we Romanians say, this is like searching a needle in a cart full of hay. 

[SurprisedByBeauty]

A bit like Schmidt-Isserstedt, too, methinks.

Like we Romanians say, this is like searching a needle in a cart full of hay. 

International: Needle in the haystack. Nadel im Heuhaufen. Maybe even the French have something like "Autant chercher une aiguille dans une botte de foin". Doesn't roll off the tongue as easily, though.

[pjme]

He looks a little bit like (old) Miklos Rozsa or Josef Vlach


Vlach


Rozsa

maybe Czech, Romanian...?

[SurprisedByBeauty]

The first person I thought of, and I don't know why, was Paumgartner.

And the pix I saw didn't look like that person on the photo in question. But here he sortof does.

[ritter]

Berislav Klobucar?

[Ras]

Must be a guy born around 1900.

This guy fits age-wise, but it doesn't really look like the conductor on the photograph - if it is him he is much younger and slimmer  on the picture in the link:

https://www.discogs.com/fr/artist/470027-Ferdinand-Grossmann

[Florestan]

Rozsa

Miklos Rozsa might be a good guess. At least the eyebrows fits. 

[Florestan]

Berislav Klobucar?

He was 40 in 1964. The mystery guy looks much older.