Most technically demanding piano concertos after Rach 3 and Prok 2

Started by Maestro267, December 16, 2019, 07:09:50 AM

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Maestro267

Rachmaninov's Third and Prokofiev's Second are often cited as two of the most technically demanding piano concertos out there. What's next in this list? That are available on disc, specifically. A recommendation of some work that's never been played in concert or released on disc is of no use to me.

Jo498

I've been told that both Brahms concertos and at least the first two by Bartok are at least as demanding as Rachmaninoff's.
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Quote from: Maestro267 on December 16, 2019, 07:09:50 AM
Rachmaninov's Third and Prokofiev's Second are often cited as two of the most technically demanding piano concertos out there. What's next in this list? That are available on disc, specifically. A recommendation of some work that's never been played in concert or released on disc is of no use to me.

Try Busoni's Piano Concerto (1904)

mc ukrneal

Bartok (1 & 2) and Ravel (left handed) I guess. They are up there anyway.
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ChopinBroccoli

For common repertoire all these are demanding as hell on piano players

The real answer, though would be some insanely atonal, modern clusterf*ck .0001% of people have ever heard of

"New Complexity" school with stuff you need 16 fingers to play
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greg

Quote from: ChopinBroccoli on December 16, 2019, 07:28:08 AM
For common repertoire all these are demanding as hell on piano players

The real answer, though would be some insanely atonal, modern clusterf*ck .0001% of people have ever heard of

"New Complexity" school with stuff you need 16 fingers to play
Probably anything by Ferneyhough then. Not sure if he has written a piano concerto.

Also to me the Xenakis piano stuff sounds insanely difficult. I believe in some parts there is a staff for each finger.
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I'm sure the two L's would give a pianist some problems: Lutoslawski and Ligeti.

amw

Quote from: Jo498 on December 16, 2019, 07:17:24 AM
I've been told that both Brahms concertos and at least the first two by Bartok are at least as demanding as Rachmaninoff's.
I've heard Brahms 2 in particular described as more difficult than Rach 3 and also as a "concerto for two right hands". Same is true of the Dvořák concerto, which actually had its solo part rewritten in the 20th century to make it easier.

Outside the standard rep, no idea. Would guess one of the unperformed concerti by Sorabji though.