Your Nerve-Soothing Composer of Choice

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vandermolen

Quote from: JBS on January 29, 2020, 10:27:01 AM
Coming into the thread late (the title made me think it was just another one of those typical poll threads...sorry, Andrei!)

Dealing with my mother in her last years was stessful enough, living in the same house with no long distance driving or other relatives in bad health. I can only glimpse what's going on with you!

Composer suggestions...Taverner's Protecting Veil (and possibly other works of his) and much of  Part. Especially as both composers were overtly expressing Orthodox Christianity in their sacred works.

+1 for the Protecting Veil.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

some guy

Two things.

One is that I have found in practice that the music that is most soothing when my nerves are shot is often as not music that has a high level of energy--"calm" music will have the effect of making me more irritable. (I played some Merzbow in the car on a longish drive with my youngest son and some of his friends. The friends were pretty wound up by the relentlessly high volume and, to them, harsh sounds. My son went to sleep. At our destination, my son woke up and said "Merzbow is so soothing, isn't he?"

Two is that music--at the very least the types of music that classical lovers listen to--is, um, fairly complex. Terms like dark and bright and soothing vastly oversimplify the situation.


Roy Bland


greg

Quote from: some guy on January 29, 2020, 02:11:49 PM
Two things.

One is that I have found in practice that the music that is most soothing when my nerves are shot is often as not music that has a high level of energy--"calm" music will have the effect of making me more irritable. (I played some Merzbow in the car on a longish drive with my youngest son and some of his friends. The friends were pretty wound up by the relentlessly high volume and, to them, harsh sounds. My son went to sleep. At our destination, my son woke up and said "Merzbow is so soothing, isn't he?"

Two is that music--at the very least the types of music that classical lovers listen to--is, um, fairly complex. Terms like dark and bright and soothing vastly oversimplify the situation.
I was about to mention Merzbow.

He was my go-to at the end of the long, undesirable to say the least, work days where I was 200% tired at the end of the day. And extremely irritated. It's more of a relief to listen to something like that, to be real for a second when you have to be polite to people all day, rather than to try to manipulate yourself to becoming calm by listening to something "calming." That would just make more more annoyed.
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Christo

Quote from: Roy Bland on January 29, 2020, 03:16:57 PM
RVW Eight.
+1
Which performance? I - always in a minority position - often return to Thomson's, sometimes Slatkin, Previn, Boult. And you?  ::)
... music is not only an 'entertainment', nor a mere luxury, but a necessity of the spiritual if not of the physical life, an opening of those magic casements through which we can catch a glimpse of that country where ultimate reality will be found.    RVW, 1948

some guy

Quote from: greg on January 29, 2020, 04:41:18 PM
I was about to mention Merzbow.

He was my go-to at the end of the long, undesirable to say the least, work days where I was 200% tired at the end of the day. And extremely irritated. It's more of a relief to listen to something like that, to be real for a second when you have to be polite to people all day, rather than to try to manipulate yourself to becoming calm by listening to something "calming." That would just make more more annoyed.
Yep!

Not something else that's attempting to manipulate me. Something that is just itself and stronger even than my fatigue or irritation.

Fortunately, I have had few moments recently where I actually need that something. My life over the past 14 years has been pretty calm overall. I always like listening to Merzbow, regardless.

Besides, how many pieces of "classical" music stay calm long enough to calm one down? One of the qualities of art music is that it's constantly changing. Not many pieces that are unremittingly calm from start to finish. I think of Mahler's 2nd, here. I've only seen it performed once, sadly, but the two long, slow, soothing bits--you know the ones--soothed different audience members to sleep. The first one a woman, who's reaction to the fortissimo outburst from the whole ensemble was a startled yelp; the second one the guy who had laughed at her discomfiture only to yelp in his turn at the second outburst, proving that poetic justice is a real thing. ;D

vandermolen

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Quote from: Christo on January 29, 2020, 09:59:28 PM
+1
Which performance? I - always in a minority position - often return to Thomson's, sometimes Slatkin, Previn, Boult. And you?  ::)

Not addressed to me but I'd go for Previn. Thomson also VG and both Boult's are fine.

Separately I was rather touched by this music which accompanied a moving BBC Radio 4 programme recently called:

'Sketches: Stories of Art and People - Not Forgotten'

It is 'New Age' rather than classical and may be considered 'naff' by some but I found it rather touching. It is 'Re-Member' by Olafur Arnalds:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oAhO5eegMfY

It's from this album:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

greg

Quote from: some guy on January 29, 2020, 10:23:49 PM
Yep!

Not something else that's attempting to manipulate me. Something that is just itself and stronger even than my fatigue or irritation.

Fortunately, I have had few moments recently where I actually need that something. My life over the past 14 years has been pretty calm overall. I always like listening to Merzbow, regardless.

Besides, how many pieces of "classical" music stay calm long enough to calm one down? One of the qualities of art music is that it's constantly changing. Not many pieces that are unremittingly calm from start to finish. I think of Mahler's 2nd, here. I've only seen it performed once, sadly, but the two long, slow, soothing bits--you know the ones--soothed different audience members to sleep. The first one a woman, who's reaction to the fortissimo outburst from the whole ensemble was a startled yelp; the second one the guy who had laughed at her discomfiture only to yelp in his turn at the second outburst, proving that poetic justice is a real thing. ;D
Lol yep. I'd consider anything from early Romantic era classical onwards to be the sort of first "prog rock" of music, due to the more dynamic and storytelling nature.

The unpredictability isn't what I'd consider relaxing. In some ways Merzbow could be considered relaxing due to it being more comparable to white noise, and... fans or tv static can be helpful for sleeping. 😁
Wagie wagie get back in the cagie

Roy Bland

Quote from: Christo on January 29, 2020, 09:59:28 PM
+1
Which performance? I - always in a minority position - often return to Thomson's, sometimes Slatkin, Previn, Boult. And you?  ::)
Surely all great performers (particularly Slatkin) but IMHO this is better despite old sound quality

vandermolen

Quote from: Roy Bland on January 30, 2020, 02:25:46 PM
Surely all great performers (particularly Slatkin) but IMHO this is better despite old sound quality


Yes, that's a fine disc, I agree, also for 'A London Symphony'.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).