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« Reply #4380 on: June 07, 2021, 03:41:27 AM »
So far, only 0.1 % of those who received complete vaccine later contracted virus, an encouraging survey covering more than 5 months here in DK says (less than 1000 cases, of more than 1 mio persons, with Pfizer and Moderna).

As far as I have read the people which are the most at risk of becoming ill despite vaccination, are the ones with depressed immunesystem. I am among them myself.

Do we know how many of those 0,1% which needed hospitalisation?
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« Reply #4381 on: June 07, 2021, 04:04:07 AM »
So far, only 0.1 % of those who received complete vaccine later contracted virus, an encouraging survey covering more than 5 months here in DK says (less than 1000 cases, of more than 1 mio persons, with Pfizer and Moderna). A few of them might have been infected before the jab. As regards an only partial vaccine, the number is higher, around twice as many.

Apparently, the numbers represent people who got a diagnosis, due to feeling ill, not systematic testing.
Interesting.  Thanks for the info.

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« Reply #4382 on: June 07, 2021, 04:10:37 AM »
As I understand the SSI.dk website as of today, 10% of those illness cases with only one jab had hospitalizations, and a bit more of those who had two jabs, maybe 12%, were hospitalized. But there are some variable technical details influencing how to count this.
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« Reply #4383 on: June 07, 2021, 04:34:53 AM »
Yes, but not only. There are also folks who have trouble scheduling appointments due to crazy work schedules, transportation issues, etc. There's a definite racial / socioeconomic divide in vaccination rates as well (poorer classes at significantly lower rates).

And, one must distinguish between anti-vaxxers and the merely vaccine-hesitant, in some cases due to rampant mis- and dis-information on social media.

Good point.
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« Reply #4385 on: June 09, 2021, 10:36:02 AM »
So far, only 0.1 % of those who received complete vaccine later contracted virus, an encouraging survey covering more than 5 months here in DK says (less than 1000 cases, of more than 1 mio persons, with Pfizer and Moderna). A few of them might have been infected before the jab. As regards an only partial vaccine, the number is higher, around twice as many.

Apparently, the numbers represent people who got a diagnosis, due to feeling ill, not systematic testing.

This is alpha data. The future is delta.
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« Reply #4386 on: June 09, 2021, 11:02:46 AM »
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« Reply #4387 on: June 09, 2021, 11:07:18 AM »
Am a Stephen King ignoramus, but checked, and yes, he wrote something called 'The Stand'.

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« Reply #4388 on: June 09, 2021, 11:11:20 AM »
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« Reply #4390 on: June 09, 2021, 03:38:32 PM »
Am a Stephen King ignoramus, but checked, and yes, he wrote something called 'The Stand'.

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« Reply #4391 on: June 09, 2021, 05:02:27 PM »
Highly recommended, even to those who think they have no interest at all in SK. Hugely ambitious and fully realized. Near universally agreed as the best thing he ever did.

Duly noted.
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« Reply #4392 on: June 09, 2021, 08:27:54 PM »
Agreement about an almost complete, domestic opening up here in DK. Hopefully it will work. Almost half of the population has begun the vaccine process, and though there are still around 1000 daily infections, the number of fatalities and hospitalized remains low. The official prognosis says a further, quite dramatic flattening out of the curves from late June.

Masks will be kept only in relation to standing passengers in public transport, from this Monday, and abolished elsewhere; food servings will be until midnight, including alcohol, starting from tomorrow, and in mid-July until 2 AM; there will be normal education conditions, but with tests twice weekly recommended; allowance of 25,000 stadium spectators at the upcoming European Football/Soccer Championships; gradual outphasing of the Corona Pass, from the 1st of August, it will be abolished by the 1st of October; and loosening the travel conditions for visiting foreign tourists must be decided further upon within a week from now.

In the longer run, they hope for an abolishment of the current, massive, permanent testing apparatus, replacing it with sewage testing in stead.
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« Reply #4393 on: June 10, 2021, 12:13:25 AM »
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« Reply #4394 on: June 12, 2021, 01:25:09 AM »
The G7 summit will work for a strategy that can fight future pandemics globally and successfully within just 100 days, reports say today.
That would be nice ...

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« Reply #4395 on: June 12, 2021, 05:13:54 AM »
Now 50 % of Finns have gotten at least the first jab (12.7 % also the second one).
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« Reply #4396 on: June 12, 2021, 08:10:39 AM »
That’s a BIG problem unless you get vaccinations up FAST!!!!!!

Indeed.

After the austerity of the lockdown, tourism to Boston is spiking dramatically now.  Some percentage of those folks coming in probably haven't bothered to vaccinate.  ::)
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« Reply #4397 on: June 12, 2021, 08:11:47 AM »
The G7 summit will work for a strategy that can fight future pandemics globally and successfully within just 100 days, reports say today.
That would be nice ...

Aye, planning and competence will be a nice change ....
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« Reply #4398 on: June 12, 2021, 08:24:00 AM »
The G7 summit will work for a strategy that can fight future pandemics globally and successfully within just 100 days, reports say today.
That would be nice ...

Should be possible if they get advance notice of any future virus releases. :-\

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« Reply #4399 on: June 12, 2021, 08:32:03 AM »
Here's my vision for the future

1. Lots of sickness and death in Europe and the USA, due to the ravages of δ. We will be OK in the UK because vaccination and exiting from the current lockdown has been well managed.

2. It'll be like gastroenteritis. Nearly everyone catches it often, most people shake it off, a few people end up in hospital and a few people have a long form -- IBS. We're all taught how to take precautions against it, and no-one lets it get in the way of having fun unless they've got some sort of aggravating medical condition or they're neurotic.

3. Domestic life mostly back to normal, as if nothing ever happened, in the UK in 2023 or even earlier. There will be lots of test, trace, isolate to guard against new variants and rapid vaccination against them.

4. In Europe there may be a reaction against the EU, demands to leave à la Brexit. Vaccine reluctance will be all but eradicated for adults.
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