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Pohjolas Daughter:
On CNN website:  "No unvaccinated players at Australian Open, says Victoria state Premier"

Victoria Premier Daniel Andrews said his government will not apply for travel permits to allow unvaccinated tennis players to compete at the Australian Open in the state after Prime Minister Scott Morrison indicated they would be allowed into the country.

Morrison said earlier on Wednesday that unvaccinated players would be free to compete at the grand slam after undergoing a two-week Covid-19 quarantine provided that Victoria, which hosts the tournament in Melbourne, applied for permits for them.
Andrews said his state would make no such applications.
"On behalf of every vaccinated Victorian who has done the right thing, my government will not be applying for an exemption for any unvaccinated player," he told reporters.
"If we don't apply for an exemption, then no exemption will be granted and then the whole issue is basically resolved."
Australia's borders have been effectively sealed for 18 months due to the Covid-19 pandemic, though authorities approve travel exemptions for special cases.
Victoria has been Australia's hardest-hit state, with its capital Melbourne locked down six times. The sixth lockdown ended on Friday, but only for fully vaccinated adults.
Unvaccinated adults remain banned from pubs, restaurants, sporting events and other parts of the economy, and may be shut out until well into 2022.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/27/tennis/australia-open-unvaccinated-players-spt-intl/index.html

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Mandryka:

--- Quote from: (: premont :) on October 28, 2021, 12:27:36 PM ---Yes, and this is why I in a post above wrote, that the epidemy can't be controlled, but will continue to spread among the vaccinated people. The consequence is, that people at risk - like me - are even more at risk now.

--- End quote ---

In Europe at least, the interventions are all about managing when the peaks and troughs are - regulating the flow for the health infrastructure. You prevent some disease in Winter 2021 by giving vaccine in Autumn, the vaccine eventually wanes, people start to catch it again in early summer 2022,  there’ll then be the question of timing the fourth dose so that the peaks are manageable in Winter 2023, and so on.

My prediction is that the disease will become harder to control not because of any evolution in the biology of the virus, but because the people will become less cooperative about vaccination. The history of vaccination here in the Uk suggests that people clamour for vaccines when they’re scared, and are pretty disinterested when they’re not. That’s why we’ll all be led to authoritarian surveillance and punishment measures - vaccine passes, employment law demanding vaccination etc. Even Britain.

Familiarity breeds contempt.

MusicTurner:
That's one option.

Another option would be that as more and more people get in contact with cases that have been hard or fatal, and time passes without major side effects of vaccines, they'll join the vaccine programme. I've met and talked to people who lost relatives for example, and know a colleague, who suffers from long-term covid effects, besides the press reporting.

I agree though that if the prospects continue into say vaccine no.6, 7 or 8, the energy might fade out somewhat. Yet, procedures could also become a routine.

T. D.:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-29/russia-suffers-deadliest-sept-since-world-war-as-covid-untamed

Russia suffered its deadliest September since World War II, according to figures published Friday, even before the peak of its current wave of the Covid-19 pandemic forced authorities to order non-working days for the first week of November.

There were 44,265 deaths associated with the virus last month, bringing the pandemic’s total to nearly half a million, according to Federal Statistics Service data published late Friday. That contributed to the highest number of September fatalities since the war, said Alexei Raksha, a demographer who left the agency last year after a dispute over its coronavirus numbers.

MusicTurner:

--- Quote from: T. D. on October 29, 2021, 11:22:38 AM ---https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-10-29/russia-suffers-deadliest-sept-since-world-war-as-covid-untamed

Russia suffered its deadliest September since World War II, according to figures published Friday, even before the peak of its current wave of the Covid-19 pandemic forced authorities to order non-working days for the first week of November.

There were 44,265 deaths associated with the virus last month, bringing the pandemic’s total to nearly half a million, according to Federal Statistics Service data published late Friday. That contributed to the highest number of September fatalities since the war, said Alexei Raksha, a demographer who left the agency last year after a dispute over its coronavirus numbers.

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-> "Russia’s average life expectancy has fallen by five years in the last 18 months, to about 69, he estimates. "

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