Coronavirus thread

[Karl Henning]

Thanks North Star, André and PD. I feel a little bit better today.

Very good. Keep that trend!

[prémont]

I was thinking about you this morning, hoping you were feeling well. Good luck tomorrow with the antivirals.

Thanks, I feel reasonably well, considering the circumstances. The antiviral medication didn't pose problems.

[prémont]

I'm terribly sorry to hear about about this, premont. I hope for a speedy recovery for both you and your wife.

Thanks for your kind words, MI.

[prémont]

Very good. Keep that trend!

I will do 

My impression is still that it is going the right way both for me and my wife.

[Florestan]

Thanks, I feel reasonably well, considering the circumstances. The antiviral medication didn't pose problems.

My impression is still that it is going the right way both for me and my wife.

Excellen news, Poul.  Wishing you both a quick and full recovery.

In other news, most restrictions in Romania will be ditched as of March 9.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Thanks North Star, André and PD. I feel a little bit better today.

Yeah!   Keep it up! 

PD

[Karl Henning]

I will do 

My impression is still that it is going the right way both for me and my wife.

Excellent!

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Pre-Omicron Covid shrinks brain. Recoverable.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-60591487

[Que]

Covid deaths probably three times higher than records say

More than 18 million people - three times higher than official records suggest - have probably died because of Covid, say researchers.

[Holden]

Covid deaths probably three times higher than records say

More than 18 million people - three times higher than official records suggest - have probably died because of Covid, say researchers.

Love that word 'probably'.

[Que]

Love that word 'probably'.

Me too. They used the method of assessing the total amount of excess deaths, which gives you actually by far the most reliable estimate. Even though you're counting deaths that are not in each and every case scientifically proved to be caused by Covid. We always knew that the actual numbers would be much higher than the officially registered ones. Particularly in countries with less advanced health care systems. 18 million on a world population of 7.9 billion is significant but it could have been worse... The yearly growth is 83 million, so this was only a small blip in a trend that will ultimately destroy the planet... 

Australia is in the top 5 of lowest fatalities BTW.

[MusicTurner]

There were estimates at the start of the pandemic that suggested reaching between 5 and 22 mio fatalities in total.

Here in DK, fatalities have gone up after the total reopening, though 30-50% are not directly related. There's been almost no debate about it. Numbers are going down now, but it still takes time.

[Karl Henning]

I know we're all ready to be done with this, but:

A covid surge in Western Europe has U.S. bracing for another wave

By Lenny Bernstein and Joel Achenbach
Today at 9:21 a.m. EDT| Updated today at 11:46 a.m. EDT

[Florestan]

I know we're all ready to be done with this, but:

A covid surge in Western Europe has U.S. bracing for another wave

By Lenny Bernstein and Joel Achenbach
Today at 9:21 a.m. EDT| Updated today at 11:46 a.m. EDT

Should Poland and Romania have asked each and every Ukrainian refugee to produce either vaccination proof or a negative PCR test in order to let them cross the border? 

[Madiel]

Should Poland and Romania have asked each and every Ukrainian refugee to produce either vaccination proof or a negative PCR test in order to let them cross the border?

The article makes absolutely no reference to Poland, Romania or Ukraine. Not least because none of them are in Western Europe. But there's absolutely zero mention of Ukrainian refugees being some kind of cause of the surge.

[Florestan]

The article makes absolutely no reference to Poland, Romania or Ukraine. Not least because none of them are in Western Europe. But there's absolutely zero mention of Ukrainian refugees being some kind of cause of the surge.

I know, but let's suppose a surge comes out in Eastern Europe (which might very well do come, right?) What then?

[Madiel]

I know, but let's suppose a surge comes out in Eastern Europe (which might very well do come, right?) What then?

Then my answer to your question is no.

[Florestan]

Then my answer to your question is no.

Don't play Todd, it doesn't suit you! 

My whole point is that humanitarian concerns trump epidemiological ones. We Romanians would have received. sheltered and fed those unfortunate people even if we had known for sure that all of them were infected with Covid. Would you Australians have done the same? Just asking.

[Karl Henning]

Don't play Todd, it doesn't suit you! 

My whole point is that humanitarian concerns trump epidemiological ones. We Romanians would have received.

I don't think there was anything in the article to suggest otherwise, Andrei!

[Madiel]

Don't play Todd, it doesn't suit you! 

I'm not playing Todd. You asked: "Should Poland and Romania have asked each and every Ukrainian refugee to produce either vaccination proof or a negative PCR test in order to let them cross the border?".

My answer to your thoroughly rhetorical question is no.