Coronavirus thread

[Wendell_E]

I don't see much caution being exercised here. In stores, I am usually the only one wearing a mask.

Same here.

[Todd]

GMG demography becomes more clear.

[Todd]

From Science:

Rare link between coronavirus vaccines and Long Covid–like illness starts to gain acceptance

Studies probe unusual cases of neurologic complications, blood pressure swings, and other side effects

[Daverz]

From Science:

Rare link between coronavirus vaccines and Long Covid–like illness starts to gain acceptance

Studies probe unusual cases of neurologic complications, blood pressure swings, and other side effects

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/vaccination-may-protect-against-long-covid

[Todd]

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/vaccination-may-protect-against-long-covid

Vaccines may not protect against disease brought on by vaccines.  That's the important takeaway from the Science article.  It is worth remembering that Science is generally considered to be a reliable source of scientific information.  Maybe not on GMG, though.

It is also worth remembering that pharmaceutical companies were granted liability protection for vaccines they developed and produced, including the ones already pulled from use - eg, the once much-lauded Moderna vaccine.  Hopefully, liability protection was sound policy making.  I'm sure it was.  How could it be otherwise?

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Last I read, they are hoping to have a vaccine for the new variant(s?) available for the public by mid-September.  Anyone hear any updates?

I checked for Covid cases data numbers for my state and was quite shocked.  I hadn't checked for a number of months so was quite surprised by how much they had risen. 

PD

[DavidW]

Taking an important quote from the article:

Others find the study compelling. "Even last year I was a little bit cautious" about the link between POTS and vaccination, says Tae Chung, a neuromuscular physiatrist who runs the POTS clinic at Johns Hopkins University. "I didn't have quantitative data to back it up, but now I feel like I do." Still, Chung stresses that this paper and other data also suggest COVID-19 vaccines protect against POTS and other Long Covid symptoms, and he remains a strong advocate for vaccination.

AN IMMUNE OVERREACTION to SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, which COVID-19 vaccines use to induce protective antibodies, is one possible cause of these symptoms. One theory is that after vaccination some people generate another round of antibodies targeting the first. Those antibodies could function somewhat like spike itself: Spike targets a cell surface protein called the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) receptor, enabling the virus to enter cells. The rogue antibodies might also bind to ACE2, which helps regulate blood pressure and heart rate, says Bernhard Schieffer, a cardiologist at the University of Marburg. If those antibodies disrupt ACE2 signaling, that could cause the racing heart rates and blood pressure swings seen in POTS.

It is important to note that while there is now an established link in some cases between a rare form of long covid and vaccines, this doesn't by a long shot make anti-vaxxers right.

[Spotted Horses]

Vaccines may not protect against disease brought on by vaccines.  That's the important takeaway from the Science article.  It is worth remembering that Science is generally considered to be a reliable source of scientific information.  Maybe not on GMG, though.

It is also worth remembering that pharmaceutical companies were granted liability protection for vaccines they developed and produced, including the ones already pulled from use - eg, the once much-lauded Moderna vaccine.  Hopefully, liability protection was sound policy making.  I'm sure it was.  How could it be otherwise?

Now you're promoting anti-vax conspiracy theories? The emergency approval for the original Moderna (and Pfizer) vaccines were withdrawn when they were replaced by dual target vaccines.

The important takeaway from the Science article is "rare." Of course any vaccine will have unexpected side effects. It would be insane to get a vaccine for a disease that isn't a grave threat. Covid-19 qualifies.

[Todd]

Now you're promoting anti-vax conspiracy theories?

No.

The important takeaway from the Science article is "rare."

The word "rare" is important to be sure, but there are other important aspects of the article. 

[Karl Henning]

https://247wallst.com/special-report/2023/09/06/heres-how-bad-covid-is-right-now-in-every-state/

[Karl Henning]

FDA approves updated COVID vaccines to boost protection this fall

[Madiel]

GMG demography becomes more clear.

What the heck does this mean?

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Last I read, they are hoping to have a vaccine for the new variant(s?) available for the public by mid-September.  Anyone hear any updates?

I checked for Covid cases data numbers for my state and was quite shocked.  I hadn't checked for a number of months so was quite surprised by how much they had risen. 

PD

FDA approves updated COVID vaccines to boost protection this fall

Any info re my earlier question Karl?

PD

[Karl Henning]

Any info re my earlier question Karl?

PD

There's still another step: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention must sign off. A CDC advisory panel is set to issue recommendations Tuesday on who most needs the updated shots. Vaccinations could begin later this week, and both the COVID-19 and flu shot can be given at the same visit.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Who all (if we know) seems to have the best vaccines (or too early to tell if there are thought to be any differences?) and is/are they a one-shot vaccine?

PD