Coronavirus thread

[Marc]

Dang "corporate media"!

Is Die Welt am Sonntag also dang corporate media?
They've just released an article in which is told that Trump is trying hard to buy a German bio-medical company (CureVac) that's been trying to develop a vaccin against the latest Corona virus. This company is a private company, but it works together with German government-related institutions. According to Die Welt, Trump wants those researches, findings and medicins exclusively for the USA. The German government wants to block the possible sale, but still, CureVac is a private company, which means that, in special occasions, they are allowed to decide on their own. Words in Berlin go that Trump is offering a billion.

For those who understand German:

https://amp.welt.de/wirtschaft/article206555143/Corona-USA-will-Zugriff-auf-deutsche-Impfstoff-Firma.html?

[Karl Henning]

Is Die Welt am Sonntag also dang corporate media?

How can we know, if Kyle does not pronounce unto us'ns?!

[ritter]

Perhaps we could keep Kyle out of this thread? He's present enough elsewhere on GMG.

[André]

Is Die Welt am Sonntag also dang corporate media?
They've just released an article in which is told that Trump is trying hard to buy a German bio-medical company (CureVac) that's been trying to develop a vaccin against the latest Corona virus. This company is a private company, but it works together with German government-related institutions. According to Die Welt, Trump wants those researches, findings and medicins exclusively for the USA. The German government wants to block the possible sale, but still, CureVac is a private company, which means that, in special occasions, they are allowed to decide on their own. Words in Berlin go that Trump is offering a billion.

For those who understand German:

https://amp.welt.de/wirtschaft/article206555143/Corona-USA-will-Zugriff-auf-deutsche-Impfstoff-Firma.html?

I read that yesterday (Washington Post?). I'm not surprised.

The situation is tense in US airports. 6 hours to get your luggage, 2 hours standing shoulder to shoulder in the Customs file. People complain that airports are being transformed in virus incubators.

[drogulus]

Is Die Welt am Sonntag also dang corporate media?

     I think the point is that "corporate" is not the right framing for every kind of news. There is no distinctly corporate meaning to "138 cases in Massachusetts".

[Karl Henning]

Perhaps we could keep Kyle out of this thread? He's present enough elsewhere on GMG.

Fair enow!

[Karl Henning]

     I think the point is that "corporate" is not the right framing for every kind of news. There is no distinctly corporate meaning to "138 cases in Massachusetts".

Precisamente!

[Marc]

     I think the point is that "corporate" is not the right framing for every kind of news. There is no distinctly corporate meaning to "138 cases in Massachusetts".

I was being ironic a bit, because of the 'mayhem' about the 'lying corporate media' in other Diner threads...

[Karl Henning]

I was being ironic a bit, because of the 'mayhem' about the 'lying corporate media' in other Diner threads...

ed anche naturalmente!

[Marc]

Precisamente!

ed anche naturalmente!

You're working on an Italian opera, Karl?

[XB-70 Valkyrie]

Could one of you heroes send me a few rolls of toilet paper??     

[Karl Henning]

Current total of worldwide confirmed cases, per Johns Hopkins University: 162,687

Current number of worldwide deaths, per Johns Hopkins University: 6,065

Total countries affected thus far: 127

Massachusetts total cases: 45 confirmed, 119 presumptive

[drogulus]

     Mortality rate by age, based on an analysis from Hubei province figures:

Age Group — Mortality Rate

0-9 — <.01 percent
10-19 — .02 percent
20-29 — .09 percent
30-39 — .18 percent
40-49 — .40 percent
50-59 — 1.3 percent
60-69 — 4.6 percent
70-79 — 9.8 percent
80 & up — 18 percent

[André]

Journalists from the french daily Libération are calling on authories to up their response to the pandemic. In this article they say that the elderly are 'sacrificed' due to the lack of respirators. This can be correlated to the recent spike in deaths in Italy (368 yesterday only) and the Eco di Bergamo's obituary pages that leapt from 1 and 1/2  page on February 9 to 10 pages on March 13 (Bergamo is at the epicenter of the outbreak in Italy). Last week's patients are younger than at the beginning (in their forties). Doctors have to decide who will get the respirators, and some hard choices have to be made.


https://www.liberation.fr/planete/2020/03/12/journalistes-francais-en-italie-pour-que-la-france-prenne-enfin-la-mesure-du-danger_1781450

The article is in French.

[drogulus]

     I read this somewhere so I'll pass it on. This is a good time to stop using cash.

[mc ukrneal]

An article about some of the behavior we are seeing:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-people-are-panic-buying-toilet-paper/ar-BB112sCl?ocid=msedgntp

[drogulus]

An article about some of the behavior we are seeing:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/why-people-are-panic-buying-toilet-paper/ar-BB112sCl?ocid=msedgntp

     The question assumes something not in evidence, that panic and not an overactive precaution gland causes people to stock up. Stocking up means fewer shopping trips and fewer occasions for catching the virus. You get as much as you can in one trip and then you stay home like any rational neurotic should do.

[JBS]

Is Die Welt am Sonntag also dang corporate media?
They've just released an article in which is told that Trump is trying hard to buy a German bio-medical company (CureVac) that's been trying to develop a vaccin against the latest Corona virus. This company is a private company, but it works together with German government-related institutions. According to Die Welt, Trump wants those researches, findings and medicins exclusively for the USA. The German government wants to block the possible sale, but still, CureVac is a private company, which means that, in special occasions, they are allowed to decide on their own. Words in Berlin go that Trump is offering a billion.

For those who understand German:

https://amp.welt.de/wirtschaft/article206555143/Corona-USA-will-Zugriff-auf-deutsche-Impfstoff-Firma.html?

NPR this afternoon reported there are 18 different companies, in the US, plus various labs, biomedical centers, etc, working in a vaccine.

The headquarters of the CDC is located on the edge of my alma mater's campus (Emory University, home of the Carter Center and only school to have the honor of having the Dalai Lama listed as a faculty member).   The university emailed an update today, to say among other things two students possibly have the virus. So it's literally down the street from the CDC.

[vandermolen]

I went into a local supermarket yesterday which appeared to have just been visited by a plague of locusts.

More encouragingly, a neighbour came round yesterday to ask for help in setting up a local support group to try and assist anyone in the village who needs help during the crisis. Apparently everyone so far had agreed to join the group.

[prémont]

     Mortality rate by age, based on an analysis from Hubei province figures:

Age Group — Mortality Rate

0-9 — <.01 percent
10-19 — .02 percent
20-29 — .09 percent
30-39 — .18 percent
40-49 — .40 percent
50-59 — 1.3 percent
60-69 — 4.6 percent
70-79 — 9.8 percent
80 & up — 18 percent

This list, which isn't corrected for other serious diseases (heart disease, chronic lung disease et.c.) and doesn't mention whether the patients have got relevant treatment or not, isn't that useful.