Coronavirus thread

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Funny how the states on the East and West Coast almost seem to be peeling off.

Huh?  I think that they're trying to do what the President has been unwilling and/or ineffective at doing (in my opinion):  provide leadership and direction and organization so as to avoid chaos, this time, upon re-opening.  They're trying to work regionally (at least from what I've heard in the East).  There are a lot of people, for instance, who work in NYC but live in New Jersey and Connecticut.  One of the things that Gov. Cuomo brought up was a concern that people would go traveling out of state if some things were open in other states but not in there own.  Gov. Cuomo was also asked this morning about whether or not he would welcome help from the President and he was all for it!  I think that it's a smart idea for the governors (and the teams) to come together to pool their smarts and ideas.  Perhaps other groups will form and can share info and experiences with each other?     It's uncharted territory.

Don't know much about what is going on on the West Coast.  Hard to keep up with everything!

Distressed to read this article today:  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52283658  I'm sure that that is true for many zoos in other countries too.  I also saw an article about some people in the Middle East abandoning their pets concerned that they could get Covid-19 from them. 
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-52234128/pets-in-middle-east-abandoned-over-coronavirus-fears

[André]

There is some evidence that the novel coronavirus infects T-cells, similar to HIV, thwarting the immune response.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/more-bad-news-on-the-long-term-effects-of-the-coronavirus.html

I've read that doctors noted a high level of kidney failures, too.

[Daverz]

I've been able to avoid going out to shop, but just in case, I made a mask from a worn out t-shirt and rubberbands:

https://www.youtube.com/v/REtQwwRoxuY

[Kaga2]

Funny how the states on the East and West Coast almost seem to be peeling off.

No, not at all. The primary responsibility, and attendant powers, rest with the states. These are contiguous states which obviously need to coordinate any changes in the lockdown. Looks like simple good leadership to me, from Cuomo and his neighbors.

[SimonNZ]

Trump halts World Health Organization funding over coronavirus 'failure'
US president accuses group of promoting disinformation and says it 'must be held accountable'

[Mahlerian]

Trump halts World Health Organization funding over coronavirus 'failure'
US president accuses group of promoting disinformation and says it 'must be held accountable'

You wouldn't always be right if you accepted the opposite of whatever Trump says. But you'd be right more often than not, and I hope that leaders at the state level are able to make the decisions that keep their citizens safest.

[SimonNZ]

World's shortest woman appeals to Indians to observe coronavirus lockdown
Jyoti Amge, 26, who is 62.8 cm tall, took to the streets of Nagpur to urge compliance

[Irons]

     

     All of these hard hit countries are now in the low single digits for new confirmed cases, 5% or less from the day before to yesterday.

Statistics are not always what they seem. The UK figures only include deaths in hospital beds. Deaths for example in Care Homes are not included which would add a further 10% to the total. France I understand includes all deaths.

It is astonishing comparing the reported cases and deaths between the UK and Germany.

[MusicTurner]

An interesting small broadcast here told about a local elite team of 15 people working with a possible vaccine.

It was said that on a global level, there are more than 40 such highly qualified teams, engaged in similar projects.


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Social distancing has worked surprisingly well here in Denmark, experts are surprised about the development compared to their predictions; now the question is to avoid a new big wave when opening society up a bit more. The pressure from business life and its political associates is mounting up for loosening regulations.

[Rinaldo]

It is astonishing comparing the reported cases and deaths between the UK and Germany.

Yet unsurprising, given how the NHS has been treated.

[prémont]

Social distancing has worked surprisingly well here in Denmark, experts are surprised about the development compared to their predictions; now the question is to avoid a new big wave when opening society up a bit more. The pressure from business life and its political associates is mounting up for loosening regulations.

I noted, that Kåre Mølbak said the decline in admissions to hospitals largely was in the age group 60 - 79. Seems to indicate, that younger people are not equally careful as the vulnerable group. This is also consistent with my own impression.

[Jo498]

You also have to take into account that in a country like Germany the Easter weekend was a holiday weekend; there will not be as many tests done as on a normal workday. It seems better to wait a few more days and then thake the trend of the last 7-10 days. In any case it seems that Germany will mostly wait until early May to lift some restrictions.

[MusicTurner]

You also have to take into account that in a country like Germany the Easter weekend was a holiday weekend; there will not be as many tests done as on a normal workday. It seems better to wait a few more days and then thake the trend of the last 7-10 days. In any case it seems that Germany will mostly wait until early May to lift some restrictions.

Testing has been less widespread in Denmark, though they are working on it. But statistics regarding hospitalizations, ICUs and fatalities are updated daily here, from what I know.
Delays are very apparent in Sweden too, where numbers sky-rocketed yesterday & are supposed to do it today as well, following Easter.

[Wanderer]

How Greece is beating coronavirus despite a decade of debt

[drogulus]

Statistics are not always what they seem. The UK figures only include deaths in hospital beds. Deaths for example in Care Homes are not included which would add a further 10% to the total. France I understand includes all deaths.

It is astonishing comparing the reported cases and deaths between the UK and Germany.

     I'm following the trend in new confirmed cases and the daily death reports. The trends are visible regardless of the differences in how countries test or count deaths. It's not the absolute numbers that concern me, it's what the trends show.

[Irons]

Yet unsurprising, given how the NHS has been treated.

Explain?

[vandermolen]

Statistics are not always what they seem. The UK figures only include deaths in hospital beds. Deaths for example in Care Homes are not included which would add a further 10% to the total. France I understand includes all deaths.

It is astonishing comparing the reported cases and deaths between the UK and Germany.

The first thing I noticed was the disparity between the German send UK statistics.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

I thought that this was a heartwarming story:  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52290976 (The one about Capt. Moore).

[drogulus]

The first thing I noticed was the disparity between the German send UK statistics.

     Some reasons for this are discussed in a failing article in the NYTimes (or is it an article......oh never mind):

The average age of those infected is lower in Germany than in many other countries. Many of the early patients caught the virus in Austrian and Italian ski resorts and were relatively young and healthy, Professor Kräusslich said.

"It started as an epidemic of skiers," he said.

As infections have spread, more older people have been hit and the death rate, only 0.2 percent two weeks ago, has risen, too. But the average age of contracting the disease remains relatively low, at 49. In France, it is 62.5 and in Italy 62, according to their latest national reports.

Another explanation for the low fatality rate is that Germany has been testing far more people than most nations. That means it catches more people with few or no symptoms, increasing the number of known cases, but not the number of fatalities.



     

[vandermolen]

I thought that this was a heartwarming story:  https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52290976 (The one about Capt. Moore).

Yes, lovely. It featured in the government's TV briefing today.