Coronavirus thread

[JBS]

  the United States. He essentially made the same calculation on Wednesday by saying that more testing only reveals more infections and therefore increases the
  numbers. "In a way, by doing all this testing we make ourselves look bad," he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-recovery.html?referringSource=articleShare

Which shows his stupidity. The more otherwise unknown cases testing reveals, the lower the hospitalization rate and mortality rate. And also the sooner and quicker we can start opening up would be, since it would be that many less people to worry about.
The first point  he doesn't care about, but the second point he does.

[Todd]

Physician: heal thyself.

It's supposed to be a comma, not a colon.

[SimonNZ]

Did you pause for even a second to consider the message?

[Todd]

Did you pause for even a second to consider the message?

You think your post was sophisticated?

Anyway, you obviously need some assistance using platitudes. 

[arpeggio]

It's supposed to be a comma, not a colon.

Reely/ Too take issue with soch a selllie misstace<

[SimonNZ]

You think your post was sophisticated?

Anyway, you obviously need some assistance using platitudes. 

sigh...does every conversation with you have to be like pulling teeth?

It was deliberately unsophisticated. It was a very simple statement followed by a very simple question. It should be very easy to answer.

I think this sentence of yours: "some people just can't control their emotions at all and blurt out anti-rational statements in a knee-jerk fashion. " often applies more to your own posts than the people you're arguing with.

Could there, perhaps, be a glimmer of truth in that?

[Todd]

sigh...does every conversation with you have to be like pulling teeth?

It was deliberately unsophisticated. It was a very simple statement followed by a very simple question. It should be very easy to answer.

I think this sentence of yours: "some people just can't control their emotions at all and blurt out anti-rational statements in a knee-jerk fashion. " often applies more to your own posts than the people you're arguing with.

Could there, perhaps, be a glimmer of truth in that?

Very thoughtful.

[SimonNZ]

Reely/ Too take issue with soch a selllie misstace<

Actually I prefer it with a colon. If I use the phrase again - and I'm sure I'll be given the opportunity - I'll do it that way again. Correct or not.

[SimonNZ]

sigh

meanwhile...

Covid-19 found in semen of infected men, say Chinese doctors
Study based on small number of patients opens up chance of sexual transmission

[Daverz]

Millions.  You read it first here on GMG.

Sorry, I meant to say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.

[Todd]

Sorry, I meant to say no more than ten to twenty million killed, tops. Uh, depending on the breaks.

Surely you have a link to this estimate of yours.  Or did you come up with it all by yourself?

[Ratliff]

Surely you have a link to this estimate of yours.  Or did you come up with it all by yourself?

Doesn't seem so controversial. In the absence of social distancing most models were predicting a few million deaths in the US.

https://www.hpnonline.com/infection-prevention/screening-surveillance/article/21130206/covid19-predicted-to-infect-81-of-us-population-cause-22-million-deaths-in-us

[Archaic Torso of Apollo]

Surely you have a link to this estimate of yours.  Or did you come up with it all by yourself?

Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuP6KbIsNK4

Starts about 2:13.

[Todd]

Here's the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuP6KbIsNK4

Starts about 2:13.

Alas, I can't recall every reference to now antiquated pop culture. 

[71 dB]

Millions.

Well lets hope not that much, but Trump's incompetence probably doubles or triples the death toll compared to what it would be if the US had a competent leader.

That said, mr Trump is not the only problem in the US regarding Covid-19. The whole for-profit model of healthcare together with corporate corruption and weak social safety nets are quite problematic in handling pandemics like this in ways that won't cause devastation among the people. Trump's incompetence merely makes a bad situation even worse.

[Todd]

Souplantation Announces It Is Closing All of Its Restaurants Permanently in the Wake of Coronavirus

Damn you!  Damn you SARS-CoV-2 to hell!

[MusicTurner]

According to French doctors in Alsace, they've apparently found the virus there in 16 cases from mid-November and December 2019. The assumption is mostly based on analyzing x-rays, however, but one case is said to be absolutely certain.

[Todd]

UN chief says pandemic is unleashing a 'tsunami of hate'

He called on the media, especially social media, to "remove racist, misogynist and other harmful content," on civil society to strengthen their outreach to vulnerable people, and on religious figures to serve as "models of mutual respect."

All nation states need to create a Ministry of Truth, I guess.  On the upside, no one takes the UN seriously.

[prémont]

According to French doctors in Alsace, they've apparently found the virus there in 16 cases from mid-November and December 2019. The assumption is mostly based on analyzing x-rays, however, but one case is said to be absolutely certain.

The specificity of X-rays (CT scans I suppose) in this context is questionable. But the absolutely certain one, how was it diagnosed? Did they have material for a virus test?

[MusicTurner]

The specificity of X-rays (CT scans I suppose) in this context is questionable. But the absolutely certain one, how was it diagnosed? Did they have material for a virus test?

It's not just a quick, superficial comparison, but seems rather comprehensively done.

I only read it on Danish TV2, so in Danish, but it's a rather thorough article for that source.
I didn't have the energy to look for English sources, but surely the story will become internationally published.

It was at Colmar, the Albert Schweitzer Hospital, so people can use that for googling. Colmar is a place of pilgrimage for Chinese tourists, due to television series locations.

https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2020-05-08-laeger-finder-spor-af-covid-19-i-europa-fra-foer-sygdommen-blev-opdaget-i-kina