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« Reply #3020 on: October 16, 2020, 02:45:07 AM »
So how many Finn males are left now?

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« Reply #3021 on: October 16, 2020, 03:24:05 AM »
So how many Finn males are left now?

Males? Corona kills also women as far as I know. Population 5.5 million, 350 dead. Do the math...
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« Reply #3022 on: October 16, 2020, 03:33:46 AM »
Males? Corona kills also women as far as I know. Population 5.5 million, 350 dead. Do the math...

Women often do better, apparently. Among all other ways women are superior to men, they seem to have a better immune system.

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« Reply #3023 on: October 16, 2020, 03:56:21 AM »
Women often do better, apparently. Among all other ways women are superior to men, they seem to have a better immune system.

I found this:

So, maybe 210 or those 350 are males.
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« Reply #3024 on: October 16, 2020, 11:52:17 AM »
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-11/coronavirus-can-persist-for-four-weeks-on-banknotes-study-finds

And many non-porous surfaces, esp. at lower temperatures.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/wisconsin-is-battling-americas-worst-coronavirus-outbreak-and-the-states-broken-politics-is-partially-to-blame-143650745.html
More good news!  :( I'm not particularly worried about inside my house; I do try and be good though and wash hands well after venturing out to do errands.  All of the stores around here are good at supplying hand sanitizer (some, gloves too).  Any studies done on how cold effects the virus?  Or did I miss that?

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« Reply #3025 on: October 16, 2020, 04:38:16 PM »
Any studies done on how cold effects the virus?  Or did I miss that?

I don't understand how this virus likes cold and dies in warm. How does it survive our body heat? Is this a stupid question?
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« Reply #3026 on: October 17, 2020, 04:53:50 AM »
It does not die in warmth / summer.

The reason why airborne viruses thrive in winter is not because of the temps, but because humans spend more time together inside with the windows closed when it's cold out.

If God had any feeling for language he / she would never have allowed this thing to be called the Cold.

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« Reply #3027 on: October 17, 2020, 06:14:24 AM »
It does not die in warmth / summer.

The reason why airborne viruses thrive in winter is not because of the temps, but because humans spend more time together inside with the windows closed when it's cold out.

Oh, that's it? Thanks.  ;)
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« Reply #3028 on: October 17, 2020, 06:57:54 AM »
Belgian Foreign Minister Tests Positive for Coronavirus

"On Oct. 12, she attended face-to-face talks with other EU foreign ministers in Luxembourg."
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« Reply #3030 on: October 17, 2020, 12:05:13 PM »
I don't understand how this virus likes cold and dies in warm. How does it survive our body heat? Is this a stupid question?

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/09/200922112304.htm

There's a lot more data on influenza virus than coronavirus, but they are probably qualitatively similar

https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.0030151

Protein molecules (the virus capsid) typically need fairly specific conditions to be active (temperature, salt concentration, etc). It is a good guess that a virus that infects mammals is optimized for 37 C.
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« Reply #3031 on: October 17, 2020, 12:14:37 PM »
Not at all a stupid q., Poju.
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« Reply #3032 on: October 17, 2020, 12:39:24 PM »
Covid-19’s first wave largely missed southern Italy. The second wave is hitting it hard.
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« Reply #3034 on: October 18, 2020, 12:23:55 AM »
Here they are starting to talk about a new lockdown, even though they are desperately trying to avoid it.

Unfortunately I don't believe there are other really effective means (in democracy and freedom) to stop the virus spreading, at least for the time being, once a certain threshold of infected people has been overcome.

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« Reply #3035 on: October 18, 2020, 12:30:23 AM »
Here they are starting to talk about a new lockdown, even though they are desperately trying to avoid it.

Unfortunately I don't believe there are other really effective means (in democracy and freedom) to stop the virus spreading, at least for the time being, once a certain threshold of infected people has been overcome.

IMO the issue is not solely the impact of the lockdown - that’s at least something you can predict and plan for. It’s how to come safely out of lockdown that’s the problem, come out without people losing discipline and causing a third wave and the need for a third lockdown and so on. No one knows how to achieve that.
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« Reply #3036 on: October 18, 2020, 02:15:32 AM »
IMO the issue is not solely the impact of the lockdown - that’s at least something you can predict and plan for. It’s how to come safely out of lockdown that’s the problem, come out without people losing discipline and causing a third wave and the need for a third lockdown and so on. No one knows how to achieve that.

In a large population it can't be done.

The only thing that helps is great leadership but even then chances are some people won't do it.

For lack of a better word, our societies have become decadent.

A vaccine is the only solution.

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« Reply #3037 on: October 18, 2020, 05:08:43 AM »
In a large population it can't be done.

The only thing that helps is great leadership but even then chances are some people won't do it.

For lack of a better word, our societies have become decadent.

A vaccine is the only solution.

I think the problem isn't decadence, it's that people can't follow rules because they can't afford to or because they don't understand them or they're not convinced they're reasonable or because they are just too difficult. 

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« Reply #3038 on: October 18, 2020, 10:19:43 AM »
A lot of people reject the rules because they want to "expres themselves".

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« Reply #3039 on: October 18, 2020, 12:30:59 PM »
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