Coronavirus thread

[Karl Henning]

Still collecting and collating

[MusicTurner]

In DK, an official survey tells that 0.005% of vaccinated people experienced serious side effects of the vaccine so far, most of them temporary, however.

3.2 mio have had their two jabs, 1 mio have received only the first one yet, so 72% of the total population have had or begun vaccines.

[MusicTurner]

Concerning the UK, our newspapers report that the virus is receding, probably due to the vaccine effect, yet a bit surprising concerning the opening up and Delta.

Here in DK, it's been rather stable for weeks, but the level is a bit too high, in spite of hardly any fatalities, about 750-1200 cases per day or 0.8 - 1.7 % of tested people, and we're hoping for it to drop. Delta is 95% of cases. Younger, unvaccinated people are now experiencing harder sickness.

[Herman]

In DK, an official survey tells that 0.005% of vaccinated people experienced serious side effects of the vaccine so far, most of them temporary, however.

3.2 mio have had their two jabs, 1 mio have received only the first one yet, so 72% of the total population have had or begun vaccines.

Might as well take the world numbers if you want to look at side effects. 3.8 billion vaccine shots have been put into arms.

[MusicTurner]

DK is almost only Pfizer and Moderna, and the registration of side effects likely very thorough. So far, vaccinations have been mostly carried through in countries with a modern and well-developed health sector, though.

But Bhutan for instance apparently has now reached 90% coverage with donations of AZ from India and Denmark.

[Mandryka]

Concerning the UK, our newspapers report that the virus is receding, probably due to the vaccine effect, yet a bit surprising concerning the opening up and Delta.

Receding in the sense of growing more slowly, probably. If that's right, it is very unexpected.

[71 dB]

3.2 mio have had their two jabs, 1 mio have received only the first one yet, so 72% of the total population have had or begun vaccines.

Here in DK, it's been rather stable for weeks, but the level is a bit too high, in spite of hardly any fatalities, about 750-1200 cases per day or 0.8 - 1.7 % of tested people, and we're hoping for it to drop. Delta is 95% of cases. Younger, unvaccinated people are now experiencing harder sickness.

Finland is not quite finished yet with the vaccinations: 3.7 million (66.2 %) people have gotten one or two jab(s) and of those 1.95 million (35.1 %) now including me both jabs. Cases have been skyrocketing from less than 100 per day mid June to 600-800 now. Delta variant + loosened restrictions for the summer + Covid fatigue among teenagers and young adults are mostly behind this, but since the cases are mostly people less than 40 years old while older people and risk groups have been so well vaccinated (of people over 70 almost 90 % are fully vaccinated), hospitalizations have stayed somewhat low.

[Alek Hidell]

Welcome to my town, St. Louis, USA. This has gone far beyond mere sport, political preference, racism, or lack of education, etc : THIS is socio-pathology in action.  https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/01/us/st-louis-mask-meeting-covid-19-positive/index.html

Ah, yes, I know it well. I'm from (almost) next door, in Oklahoma, and since it's an even redder state than Missouri you can imagine what's going on here. Our legislature has been busy passing laws banning mask mandates in public schools, universities, municipalities, and so on.

Meanwhile, back in reality: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/us/oklahoma-covid-cases.html

[DavidW]

Alek, here in South Carolina the budget has a proviso that if any school district institutes a mask mandate they will immediately lose their funding.

[Karl Henning]

Alek, here in South Carolina the budget has a proviso that if any school district institutes a mask mandate they will immediately lose their funding.

Jesus H. Bungee-Jumping Christ!

[Mandryka]

Well, I'm pretty sure that admissions have peaked in the UK. What the consequences of the UK strategy will be for long covid and for mutations is anyone's guess of course. And it's anyone's guess what will happen next month when schools open and when the level of immunity in the population is different. But so far, the UK approach is looking good.

I wonder what the EU will do now, what do you think Que? Follow in our footsteps?

[Que]

I wonder what the EU will do now, what do you think Que? Follow in our footsteps?

Well, the EU is not in charge of healthcare nor responsible for measures against the pandemic. Though I'm sure that will change in the future.

So, it's up to individual member states how to proceed from here. And vaccination & infection rates vary greatly between countries.

[André]

Jesus H. Bungee-Jumping Christ!

Indeed. That's an undisguised non-mask mandate.

[MusicTurner]

Germany will now offer fully vaccinated - in their system - a third jab already from September. It's called a 'booster-jab'.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Germany will now offer fully vaccinated - in their system - a third jab already from September. It's called a 'booster-jab'.

Interesting.  Does that apply to all of the vaccines or just certain ones?  As far as I know, the J&J is only a one-shot vaccine.  I imagine that this is for Moderna and Pfizer then?

PD

[Irons]

Well, I'm pretty sure that admissions have peaked in the UK. What the consequences of the UK strategy will be for long covid and for mutations is anyone's guess of course. And it's anyone's guess what will happen next month when schools open and when the level of immunity in the population is different. But so far, the UK approach is looking good.

I wonder what the EU will do now, what do you think Que? Follow in our footsteps?

I find it ironic that soothsayers warned that Brexit would result in shortages and Supermarket shelves would be stripped bare with lorries lined up across the channel with their cargo going to waste. Didn't happen of course, only for the British Government with their "pinging" NHS app shooting themselves in the foot which resulted in shortages across the board. We can't even blame the dastardly EU.

[MusicTurner]

Interesting.  Does that apply to all of the vaccines or just certain ones?  As far as I know, the J&J is only a one-shot vaccine.  I imagine that this is for Moderna and Pfizer then?

PD

It seems to be a Pfizer or Moderna, regardless of what vaccine you already had ... there are quite a lot of studies now telling of benefits of a 'cocktail' of vaccines.

Two very leading experts here in DK foretell a rising pandemic in the autumn, and likely further close downs/restrictions, because of new variants and cooler climate, and in spite of the relatively high level of vaccinations reached thus far 

[Pohjolas Daughter]

It seems to be a Pfizer or Moderna, regardless of what vaccine you already had ... there are quite a lot of studies now telling of benefits of a 'cocktail' of vaccines.

Two very leading experts here in DK foretell a rising pandemic in the autumn, and likely further close downs/restrictions, because of new variants and cooler climate, and in spite of the relatively high level of vaccinations reached thus far 

Yes, I had heard of the "cocktail approach".  I hope that it can help.

Scary thoughts re the fall.  Not even that late here in the US; earlier today I was reading about the rapid surge of Covid cases starting to inundate Florida hospitals in some areas.   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58077209

Best wishes,

PD

[Alek Hidell]

Alek, here in South Carolina the budget has a proviso that if any school district institutes a mask mandate they will immediately lose their funding.

Yeah, not very surprising coming from the birthplace of treason.

[Karl Henning]

Yes, I had heard of the "cocktail approach".  I hope that it can help.

Scary thoughts re the fall.  Not even that late here in the US; earlier today I was reading about the rapid surge of Covid cases starting to inundate Florida hospitals in some areas.   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58077209

Best wishes,

PD

Yeah, not very surprising coming from the birthplace of treason.

The Trumpist death cult on parade.